Redemption of "Dune 2"
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Hello axor
You should leave the coordinates for transfers so that people don’t look for them...
Hello axor
axo> To buy back Dune 2, we only need to collect 500 rubles.
Who's being greedy? :o
Hello, lvd
lvd> Or even better - a demo version. To know WHAT EXACTLY to buy.
There seemed to be a couple of demos in ’97.
Hello, rasmer
ras> You should leave the coordinates for translations so that people don’t search...
Or better yet, a demo version. To know WHAT EXACTLY to buy.
Hello, rasmer
ras> You should leave the coordinates for translations so that people don’t search...
I'm correcting myself. The address is: Russia, 160035, Vologda, PO Box 136, Shushkovu
Alexander Dmitrievich.
Hello axor
No, you’d better tell me the author’s address and how much this game costs in total.
I might buy it myself with the source code ;)
Hello bugsy
bug> no, you better tell me the author's address and how much this game costs in total.
bug> I might buy it myself with the source code ;)
PERESTROIKA soft - any dema... addresses are indicated... :))))) then then here it is
don't forget to post...
Hello bugsy
bug> no, you better tell me the author's address and how much this game costs in total.
bug> I might buy it myself with the source code ;)
I've had the game and the source code for over two years now. 3000 rub. were paid
to the author. There are still 3000 rubles left. And before the end of the last 3000, as indicated
above, it remains to collect 500 rubles.
Hello, rasmer
ras> PERESTROIKA soft - any demo... addresses are indicated... :))))) then later
ras> don't forget to post it here...
I won't post anything. We will sell. Whoever lays it out, I’ll bite off his ears.
Hello axor
axo> I won’t post anything. We will sell. Whoever lays it out, I’ll bite off his ears.
Bite :cool:
p.s.: Spiculants :)
Hello axor
axo> I have had the game and source code for more than two years. 3000 rub. were
axo> paid to the author. There are still 3000 rubles left. And until the end of the last ones
axo> 3000, as stated above, it remains to collect 500 rubles.
Well, since you already have the subject, at least write about your impressions of this game
- how cool it is that there is (intros, features, etc.), treat yourself to screenshots - in
in general, start “warming up” the audience in advance (the main thing is not to “warm up”! :) ),
You'll get 500 rubles faster!
Hello, rasmer
ras> don't forget to post it here later...
Did you want to fuck for free? :)
Hello Titus
Tit> Spiculants
in fact, the game will be distributed at cost, without any extras
(as it is written in the paragraph). where is the speculation here? :)
Hello, Maksagor
> Well, since you already have the subject, at least write about your impressions of
> of this game - how cool what is there (intros, features, etc.)
> pamper yourself with screenshots - in general, start “warming up” the audience in advance
> (the main thing is not to “heat”! :)), you’ll get 500 rubles faster!
Max, do you remember whose original idea it was? :)
Hello Titus
Tit> Bite :cool:
As soon as possible, right away.
Tit> p.s.: Speculators :)
Well, tell this to those who are now selling salt.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> in fact, the game will be distributed at cost, without any
scl> allowances (as written in the paragraph). where is the speculation here? :)
Wow... What nonsense is written in the paragraph...
Let’s say it costs 6000. It sells for 100. 60 people will buy it. And what? Next
won't it be for sale? Or will it be distributed for free (then why
buy)?
Hello axor
axo> I won’t post anything. We will sell. Whoever lays it out, I’ll bite off his ears.
How much is opium for the people? ;)
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> How much is opium for the people? ;)
About 100-150 rubles each.
Hello, scl^mc
scl> at cost of media + postage
scl>
I would have written that right away :)
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> Wow... What nonsense is written in the paragraph...
ng_> Let’s say it costs 6000. It sells for 100. 60 people will buy it. And
ng_> what? Will it no longer be sold? Or will it extend to
ng_> freebie (then why buy)?
will be published with color illustrations. You never know what good things can be for people if you have
make money!
(Damn, it’s so funny to read how people because they can’t write on the wall
climbs :) Or is it he (the people) who is so nervous for the sake of 100 rubles?... :cool: )
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> Wow... What nonsense is written in the paragraph...
at media cost + postage
Hello Titus
And what will begin? “The end of freebies” = “the end of the world” for you?
(Thoughts: I think many spektrumists are able to spend a hundred or two a month
to purchase software)
2 ng_dead - I respect you.
Hello, Maksagor
> But since there is already a person here on the forum who already has the opportunity
> launch a toy live, then I require impressions and screenshots to the studio!
indeed, give the people a little touch of what is. according to demos
You can’t really make an impression, because the full version probably has features
specific. a couple of screenshots to the studio, please.
Hello axor
axo> Max, do you remember whose original idea it was? :)
Of course I remember! Naturally me! ;)
But since there is already a person here on the forum who already has the opportunity to
launch the toy, then I require impressions and screenshots to the studio!
Hello, scl^mc
scl> in fact, the game will be distributed at cost, without any
scl> allowances (as written in the paragraph). where is the speculation here? :)
This is a cry from the heart about the authors of this Dune. Our people don’t take a taxi to the bakery!
(read: they don’t pay $200 for a Spectrum game these days)
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> Why don't they pay? We pay! The only thing missing is 500 re...
I can imagine what will happen if everyone starts asking for money for those games or software,
which the people do not have... :|
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> And what will begin? “The end of freebies” = “the end of the world” for you?
Sur> (Thoughts: I think many spektrumists are able to spend a month
Sur> a hundred or two to buy software)
Sur> 2 ng_dead - Respect.
So I don’t understand - do you want to pay for software that no one else has?
Hello Titus
Why don't they pay? We pay! The only thing missing is 500 rubles...
Hello Titus
Tit> So I don’t understand - you want to pay for software that no one else has
Tit> no?
For the one that “no one has,” i.e. for fictitious - no, of course.
Unless in the case when the author undertakes (gives his word of honor, for example) his
write.
Hello Titus
Tit> I can imagine what will happen if everyone starts asking for money for those games
Tit> or software that people don’t have... :|
The question here is: what goals does the author of the software game pursue? For some it is
a hobby, a pleasant pastime... And for some, a way to earn money...
Possibly the only one :)
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> (Damn, it’s so funny to read how people are because they can’t shave
Sur> climbs the wall :) Or is it him (the people) for the sake of 100 rubles
Sur> nervous?... :cool: )
I respect copyrights, I don’t like tibbing... You won’t believe my ability even with Windows and Office
on the laptop are licensed :) And I don’t mind hundreds of rubles for a good cause... Another
The question is that I don’t have too many of them either, and I won’t give them away for a “pig in a poke”
I will... So - screenshots or a demo (playable) to the studio, and we can start
subscription!
Hello icebear
ice> Is it possible now to make at least $200 a month on Spectrum?
$200 is not $200, but if you're lucky, around 50 is quite possible. let's say if through
chronosoft will sell your game :)
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> And for some, a way to make money... Perhaps the only one :)
You either need to be naive, like a 5-year-old child, or you are already in
the most extreme extreme.
Hello Titus
Tit> So I don’t understand - you want to pay for software that no one else has
Tit> no?
Have you or your friends ever had to buy a hundred rubles for a DVD with
a film that you haven’t seen (well, maybe you’ve heard reviews), but only read on
announcement in the box, and did it offend you in some way? I guess I bought it - if not you yourself (from where
I know, in case you don't have the DVD. But the same situation is with ordinary VHS cassettes), then
those around you - exactly.
It's the same situation with Dune. What the game is about is known. How everything will be approximately
look too. Right now AXOR will upload more screenshots - why not an analogue of re-advertising
poster barkers? And it will all cost - the price of a floppy disk + postage - obviously
less than 100 rubles. So what don't you like? What do you regret? Yes, for ransom
People, including me, chipped in with toys for $200. But that was the case
voluntary. No one is forcing you to donate money for
eliminating the last 500-ruble shortage. Although it would be useful...
Hello icebear
ice> You either need to be naive, like a 5-year-old child, or you are
ice> is already in the extreme extreme.
Too peremptory, in my opinion.
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> Of course there are no queues, but one person still made $200. If
ng_> spend sparingly, this will be enough for a month... :)
What will happen next month and then? It’s possible now to do it monthly
Spectrum at least $200? From the answer to this question follows my assessment
peremptory :)
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> Too peremptory, in my opinion.
I see people have been queuing since the morning of the day before yesterday for Spectrum software?
Offer your opinion, only with the realities of how you can make money on this. Just don't
one-time, namely to earn in the context of the only income of residence.
Hello icebear
ice> I see people have been queuing since the morning of the day before yesterday for the Spectrum
ice> software? Offer your opinion, only with the realities of how you can earn money
ice> on this. Just not one-time, but to earn money in context
ice> single income income.
Of course, there are no queues, but one person still made $200. If you spend
economical, this will last for a month... :)
Hello icebear
ice> What will happen next month, and then? Perhaps monthly now
ice> make at least $200 on Spectrum? It follows from the answer to this question
ice> assessment of my peremptory nature :)
That's why they stopped making money on the Spectrum, because... too many freeloaders
appeared.
After all, everyone knows the reasons for the non-release of “ChV2”. Slava realized that he would no longer make money on
him...
Hello, ng_dead
ng_> Wow... What nonsense is written in the paragraph...
ng_> Let’s say it costs 6000. It sells for 100. 60 people will buy it. And
ng_> what? Will it no longer be sold? Or will it extend to
ng_> freebie (then why buy)?
There will be nothing for free, even when active sales end.
Hello, Maksagor
> ...all this will cost - the price of a floppy disk + postage - obviously less
> 100 rubles.
Let me clarify. This will only cost those who chipped in for the game, and for those who didn’t
I chipped in, the price will be 100-150 rubles.
Hello axor
axo> That's why they stopped making money on Spectrum, because... too much
axo> freeloaders have appeared.
There are plenty of them everywhere in Russia, not to mention pirates, but they can’t make money
interferes.
So maybe it's something else?
Hello new art
axor is doing the right thing, albeit a thankless one.
Hello, Maksagor
> Have you or your friends never had to buy rubles for
> one hundred DVDs with a film that you haven’t watched (well, maybe reviews
> heard), but just read the announcement on the box, and did it offend you in some way?
> I guess I bought it - if not you yourself (how do I know, maybe you don’t have a DVD.
> But the same situation is with ordinary VHS cassettes), then those around you -
> exactly.
>
> It’s the same situation with Dune. What the game is about is known. Like about everything
> will look the same. Right now AXOR will upload more screenshots - why not
> analogue of re-advertising posters-barker? And it will all cost - price
> floppy disks + postage - clearly less than 100 rubles. So why don't you
> like it? What do you regret? Yes, people can buy toys for $200, including
> including me, they chipped in. But this was a voluntary matter. Nobody cares for you
> forces even now to donate money to eliminate the latter
> 500-ruble shortage. Although it would be useful...
I had to buy DVDs and much more if it was impossible to get it orrewrite for free. But! Not to resell it for money later
to the rest. I give all this away and have given it away for free.
Maybe I should switch to new 'trends' of making money on the Spectrum?
Shall I find something unique in my collection and charge a price for it? A?
Hello, moroz1999
mor> axor does the right thing, albeit a thankless one.
Give your reasons.
In my opinion, everything is the other way around, instead of supporting existing authors and
compensate for the time spent developing a new game with at least a couple of hundred, Axor for some reason
invested money in obscene junk, which in terms of the engine does not even reach the level of the CV.
But people fell for it, some even started chipping in.
And then they’ll launch it themselves, drive for half an hour and that’s it.
What are you paying for? Because someone creates the appearance of activity for a pittance,
what are the games doing, Spectrum is alive, etc.
Soon we’ll probably chip in so that someone can draw a couple of pictures for the party and
Mouzon with demos?
And then 3 spectators watched and admired?
This is a dead end and I don’t see a way out yet. :(
Hello icebear
ice> Let me remind you that we were talking about “And for some, a way to make money...
ice> Possibly the only one ". $50 as a result of the only method
ice> making money is very sad.
Sad is not the right word :| There are families(!) whose monthly income is
30(!) bucks... :(
That's it, have you closed the topic of "peremptory"?
ice> Think about it, but in GNU everyone is a freeloader and nothing is bent :)
Who are they? Mozilla and others like them? They make money on something else. Don't change it
concepts.
ice> Maybe we can ask Slava? IMHO Slava just dumped it on the PC because it
ice> became his stable income.
Now ask yourself (or him) - why?
bug> STOP WRITING OFF TOPIC!!! AND THEN I'LL DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!!!
bug> REMINDER THAT THE TOPIC: GIVE MONEY FOR DUNE-2
Hmm... Let me note that what is being discussed now is whether or not to give
money for Dune." So, it seems, everything is legal :rolleyes:
Hello new art
new> is not up to par in terms of engine, even up to the CV.
But no one said that the game is super and it’s cooler than “ChV”. Everyone saw the demo, everyone
they know what awaits them.
We buy not to blame the author for selling bad software, but for
education. To remember that work costs money. And then, the finished game in general
would have disappeared.
Hello Surfin' Bird
in the twentieth spectrophone there is a demo - dunes. talking about her?
Hello icebear
ice> I see people have been queuing since the morning of the day before yesterday for the Spectrum
ice> software? Offer your opinion, only with the realities of how you can earn money
ice> on this. Just not one-time, but to earn money in context
ice> single income income.
Naturally, you can’t make money. But “earning extra money” is fine. So:
ng_> Of course there are no queues, but one person still made $200. If
ng_> spend sparingly, this will be enough for a month... :)
And this, don’t forget, is in a situation where most people don’t want to buy software
pay, "happy to support pirates", and generally for some reason
rolls his eyes when it comes to payment.
new> There are plenty of them everywhere in Russia, not to mention pirates, however
new> This doesn’t stop you from earning money. So maybe it's something else?
When half of a million people buy a game for 50 bucks on release day,
a quarter - for 30 in a week, an eighth - for 15 in a month, and the rest -
download - there are conditions for earning money.
When out of 100 spektrumists 10 buy, one bitch buys and posts, and 89
- download, authors - SH. And who will work for the sake of agricultural production? :mad:
Tit> I had to buy DVDs and much more if this was not possibleTit> get or rewrite for free. But! Not for later
Tit> resell it for money to others. I give all this away and have been giving it away
Tit> free.
Oops! Patron :) Buy a new game from me for 300 bucks, and at least correspond
everyone!
Tit> Maybe I should switch to new 'trends' of making money
Tit> Spectrum?
Yoma! "New trends"! I always knew that the British, bitches, are smart - they switched to
"new wave" already in the early 80s :)
Tit> Will I find something unique in my collection and charge a price for it?
Tit> Eh?
Yeah. I'll even buy it from you, unless, of course, it's Tetris on bass :)
Just "break" within 200 rubles, so that people who share your
glances did not rot you later.
new> Give your reasons.
I’ll explain: he’s currently editing the script for a NEW game.
Who will say that this is NOT THE RIGHT THING!??!?!?!? The "ungrateful thing" will begin
I won't say anything.
new> In my opinion, everything is the other way around, instead of supporting those that still exist
new> authors and compensate for the time spent developing at least a couple of new games
new> hundreds, new> Axor for some reason invested money in obscene junk that did not live up to
new> in terms of the engine even before the CV.
Blah, what do you mean "for some reason"? It was necessary, so I invested it! And he is not the only one to decide
accepted. And, be that as it may, it would be a damn shame if the ready
ended up flushed down the toilet.
And the feeling that this did not happen is worth the money. For whom not
worth it - doesn't chip in, doesn't buy, doesn't steal.
(Thought: Damn, this is elementary! What are we - in kindergarten?)
new> But the people fell for it, some even went to chip in.
new> And then they’ll launch it themselves, run for half an hour and that’s it.
A completely unsubstantiated statement.... Not even related to
"proceedings". What does it matter to you (me, Axor, all of us) what will be done with
game the person who paid the money? Let him at least nail it to the wall - it’s his
right.
new> What are you paying for? For the fact that someone creates an appearance for a pittance
new> activities, what games are doing, Spectrum is alive, etc.
And what in this world is not visible?
And, damn, if the release of newspapers, magazines (including printed ones), games, programs, hardware,
the presence of real people who use and are interested is not proof for you
the liveliness of the platform, what will it be? When will you have a bench in front of the train?Grandmothers sit and discuss: “But the latest music from Fatal Snipe is nothing.”
did you read in the "Paragraph" - the prices for AU-ki are increasing?", or P..tin on TV in
news will announce which foreign guests will be invited to the next
ZX-party?!?
new> Soon we will probably chip in so that someone can draw a couple for the party
new> pictures and music videos with demos?
new> And then 3 spectators looked and admired?
new> This is a dead end and I don’t see a way out yet. :(
In general - another portion of concentrated depression from Slava. Considering that
that they have been coming with enviable regularity since the moment we met, I declare:
Slav, everything will be fine :)
Hello axor
axo> But no one said that the game is super and it’s cooler than “ChV”. Everyone saw
axo> demo, everyone knows what awaits them approximately.
axo> We do not buy in order to blame the author for selling bad software
axo> and for education. To remember that work costs money. And then
axo> the finished game would have disappeared altogether.
Axor is right a thousand times.
Hello new art
Slavka, you killed me... I'm crying... :(
Hello, scl^mc
scl> $200 is not $200, but if you're lucky, around 50 is quite possible. let's say
scl> if you sell your game through chronosoft :)
Let me remind you that we were talking about “And for some, a way to make money... Perhaps
the only one." $50 as a result of the only way to earn money is very
sad.
Hello axor
axo> That's why they stopped making money on Spectrum, because... too much
axo> freeloaders have appeared.
Just think, but in GNU everyone is a freeloader and nothing is done :)
axo> After all, everyone knows the reasons for the absence of “ChV2”. Slava realized that he was no longer
axo> will make money on it...
Maybe we can ask Slava? IMHO Slava just dumped it on the PC, because it became his
stable income.
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> Naturally, you can’t make money. But “earning extra money” is fine. So
Sur> what:
You didn’t like my peremptory nature precisely in the context of the only thing
way to earn money. Do you agree now?!
Hello, CHRV
CHR> By the way, note that I’m not arguing with you, but you are arguing with me, therefore you
CHR> topic and close
A COUPLE MORE STATEMENTS NOT ABOUT DUNE-2 AND I WILL REALLY CLOSE THE TOPIC OR MOVE IT
I WILL REMOVE HALF OF THE POSTS OR REMOVE ANY EXCESSIVE POSTS
Hello bugsy
I couldn’t stand it and moved half of the messages to the Free-Paid Spectrum
[http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=2618], but it turned out so bad...
:|
Hello, good boy
dada
Hello bugsy
bug> A COUPLE MORE STATEMENTS NOT ABOUT DUNE-2 AND I WILL REALLY CLOSE THE TOPIC OR
bug> I WILL MOVE HALF OF THE POSTS OR REMOVE ANY EXCESS
There are two steps you can take:
1. Divide this topic into two: one on topic, the second off-topic.
2. A topic that is off topic :) can be combined with a topic about
paid/free Spectrum.
P.S. This message can be deleted.
Hello Titus
There is a thread "free/paid Spectrum" Bugsy drive them all there :)
Hello TomCaT
Tom> Explain, please, what is meant by subject? What will happen in
Tom> as a result of the buyout? Will everyone share the sources among themselves?
5++++++++ per question.
Hello bugsy
bug> it just turned out so bad...
I helped you a little :)
Hello, CityAceE
Explain, please, what is meant by subject? What will happen as a result
ransom? Will everyone share the sources among themselves?
Hello, icebear
2TomCaT:
http://zx.pk.ru/showpost.php?p=40298&postcount=10
http://zx.pk.ru/showpost.php?p=40436&postcount=29
Hello Surfin' Bird
Thank you. Although this doesn't explain everything. Anyone who contributes a share receives
the source code of "Dune 2" (by the way, which one?), and, accordingly, the rights and
responsibilities. You can't post it. It looks like you can sell it. More details anyway
I'd like to know.
Hello TomCaT
Tom> Thank you. Although this doesn't explain everything. One who contributes a share
Tom> chips in, gets the sources of "Dune 2" (by the way, which one?), and
Tom>, respectively, rights and obligations. You can't post it. Sell
Tom> seems possible. I would still like to know more details.
The source codes of the game were given to me en masse. I didn't even understand them. I know
only that everything is written there in Zasm 3.0. About sources and their distribution
I haven't spoken to the author. When I finally settle with him, I’ll clarify
this question. I think that he will not be against their distribution.