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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, All
For almost any reasonable money: v2_finge; :v2_lol:;
It may not work, but with the whole case and keyboard, there may be something broken in
electronics... In short, without mechanical damage and that the keyboard is in
good condition!
P.S. Good people, tell me the flea markets where they sell specs!!! I searched here on
forum, there is ebay, but I couldn’t register there, there was an input error
data... It’s interesting that the address and name should be written in English or you can write it in
Russian? :v2_jawdr:
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Mark Antonov
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
they don’t work with Russia - they need intermediaries (the main thing here is not to target the crooks
run into)
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Yakovlev Anton
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> It’s interesting that the address and name should be written in English or you can write it in
len> Russian?
Only English - local bourgeois computers do not support the Cyrillic alphabet. yes and if
If you win the auction, how will they send it to you? at the post office they only speak English and
write...:rolleyes:
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> English only -
how to write an address in English?
well, the name doesn't matter... but the address is important...
How can I write it down correctly so that it goes where it needs to go?
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> how they don't work
who knows, I read the thread to the end, one says the same thing, the other says it’s possible
via web money...
Some kind of intermediaries...
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, The Exploited
The> they don’t work with Russia -
how do they not work?
there in the country selection column there was Russia, which means they have to work!
how did that guy buy spec+ for 2 tanks?
He didn’t seem to be talking about intermediaries!
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
scl> and even if you win the auction
How are trades organized there?
This is the price that is worth it, is it the maximum of what was offered? Or is everything there
dark?
And yet, I managed to complete part of the registration, then they demanded from me
master card :) why only pay by card? damn I don't have one... :)
I'll try to start it tomorrow, if it works, I'll buy a spec on ebay!
sorry for the swearing...
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
Somewhere on a forum in a flea market I posted a link there, Russian Internet
There was a flea market and there were a lot of messages about buying and selling. But I didn’t find anything
where did I say and write this? Newart also responded to this message.
Look at a flea market. Posted it this year.
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Chunin Roman
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
I worked through an intermediary www.westernbid.com.
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, alexeenko
ale> Russian Internet flea market
Yes, I looked at it, but the downside is that it’s Russian...
I found only one branded Spectrum QL there....
The rest are all our clones...
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> click on the bid button
yes, I can’t register because I don’t have a Western visa card
or something else...
There the guys write that spec+3 as a rare item goes for about
40-60 tanks
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> link please
search for flea market
there will be a topic
still a flea market! come in here
I've already closed it so I'll have to look for it anyway
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Yakovlev Anton
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22 August 2006
Hello, The Exploited
The> they don’t work with Russia - they need intermediaries
Some lots can be received directly by mail. but there are very, very few of them (~1%)
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Yakovlev Anton
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> How are trades organized there?
the seller indicates the starting price. in some cases, also the price at which
The product can be purchased immediately without haggling. Those who want to buy click on the bid button
and indicate the amount for which they would like to buy this product. I'm out of curiosity
I looked at electric guitars, and from $25 starting price, the price has already risen almost to
1000
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Yakovlev Anton
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22 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> yes, I looked at it
please give me the link. I can't find something on the forum...
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Yakovlev Anton
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22 August 2006
Hello, CHRV
But we have something like ebay, but there’s no CIS?
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Andreas Kaiser
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22 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> and we have something like ebay, but there is no CIS?
Molotok.ru?
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Yuliy Trunin
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22 August 2006
Hello icebear
Well, I was kicked out of the kingdom’s website :(, they say, unreliable comrade!
And with an intermediary, you first need to add an account to the account, then you can order a bet....
But for now I’m sticking to Portuguese! I'll show these to foreigners, I still gave them +3 to mine
there will be! :) :) :)
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Chunin Roman
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
It’s impossible to negotiate with the Germans so that they send money directly to them
transfer via bank.
With England and Usa it is better through an intermediary. The fastest way to transfer money
via WebMoney.
There is a bank on Paveletskaya, you call there, you come, put money in a safe deposit box,
in an hour they are in your WebMoney wallet. You transfer money to an intermediary,
it takes almost an hour and a half.
I don’t remember the bank’s phone number - look on the WebMoney website.
When I hacked the matrix on the laptop, I bought the matrix at USA (it cost $45) + $25
to the intermediary + $20 shipping... Domestic freaks from the service center asked for $900
and were sent to hell.. immediately. Shipping took two weeks (via Cargo) -
brought with delivery to the apartment.
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> I don’t know a foreign language well
len> what I was asked to confirm, I saw and understood
len> but sit for three hours to read English text or, especially, German
len> which I don’t know at all is a waste...
len> in Russian I would read
what did you want, sir? you would have gone to Africa and demanded that there be
They communicated with you in Russian. It says that this is the German branch of e-bay. yes
also English, and American, and in other countries... except Russia. in Russia
e-bay.ru will open - you will read in Russian.
There's no point in blaming the mirror... if you want to buy something from them, play by their rules.
or don't play at all.
I’m really in ambush myself now - I won the auction for 5 English pounds. now
I’m trying to negotiate delivery with the seller, in my broken English... and
that I don’t have a mastercard? (or why is maestro not supported for them?).
If I don’t reach an agreement, I’ll either have to send some money by mail in an envelope (dangerous -
at the post office s***t), or wildly apologize. :rolleyes;
For; information - not only “Germans” were “fascists”, but also “Italians”,
“Austrians”, “Balticians”, “Russians”... the list goes on. so
STOP CALLING THE GERMANS FASCISTS!!! (my goodness, I got it and forced me to press shift)
:mad:
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Yakovlev Anton
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
2lennon: I should have read the forum rules more carefully. good to drive away the blizzard
all sorts of things. Now I’ll also start making fun of everyone. some of the participants
Forums managed to get banned for such “jokes”. What is this: everyone else has feelings
there is no humor, if they don’t understand the “jokes” :)
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> for reference - not only the "Germans" were "fascists", but also
scl> "Italians", "Austrians", "Baltic", "Russians"... the list is possible
scl> continue. so STOP CALLING THE GERMANS FASCISTS!!! (mlin
scl> took it out, forced me to press shift)
damn how stupid you are!
I know perfectly well what and who the fascists are!
I respect the Germans - I’m just kidding!
and as for bending the fingers, I’m not indignant, I just complained that it’s a lot difficult
grind information in English plus German..
if I had at least practice at a Russian auction, then it would be easier, so
that's it!
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> I think it’s possible through an intermediary in Europe, he’s in Germany
len> send for 8..
If he is in Germany, he will pay 8 euros for postage. But he's over 8 for you
will not send.
len> and they will send it to me!
len> will still be cheaper than 45...
Rather than guessing, it’s better to write and ask once.
len> And then who told you that I am now obliged to buy one hundred percent?
When you registered (or when you were registered), you had to
accept their disclaimer. And it clearly says that when purchasing between
The seller and buyer enter into a contract on certain terms.
len> no one told me anything about this, I participated in the action just like in
len> others,
len> no one warned anything
Ignorance of the laws does not exempt you from responsibility.
len> but I can log in under a different name
There were many who were so sharp and smart. Ebay has been around for a long time.
len> and finally I don’t intend to teach fascists
I'll ask. Many outstanding people were or are Germans.
len> could write important things in English...
Written. Have you read? Are you generally good with English?len> Plus this spec is now quietly being sold again under the same
len> lot....
len> How do you understand this?
Easy and simple. They have a carload of Spectrums, so they sell them at a fixed price
price. According to eBay rules, an auction must be posted for a certain time,
You can’t put anything up forever. Think they use ebay as
e-shop. By the way, you should have received the soap indicated in the registration
message with payment instructions, etc.
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> 2lennon; rules; forum
Stop chasing something, are you offended?
or are you one of the fascists?
or are you German?
Well, bear, okay, he’s in their trench now, and you? Why did you shout?
And then the moderators scolded when fascism is glorified and not ridiculed
ok, I won’t, you’re boring....
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
The funny thing is that my Portuguese spec was outbid for a buck yesterday and I decided to
wait for tonight! This saved me... And the one that hung on me
for 30 British-wooden ones - it was finally +2 with mafonm, I don’t even need it
there was :) :) :) I beeped him just in case... I thought suddenly everything would break off
I'll at least take it.
Yes, we are such cheerful Russians, but we are these fascists both under tsarism and under
Communism has been destroyed anyway and will continue to be destroyed!!!!! :) :) :) Because we are funny!
But seriously, of course I just didn’t have the experience, I had to wait a little.
You could get it from the Portuguese for probably 80 bucks and not euros, although
Who knows, Portugal is further than Germany, probably 10 bucks more expensive
shipment.
Let it be over 99! how Sinclair sold it, it’s even cool!
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
I canceled all the guys...
wow, Mishka scared me, I'm law-abiding....:) it's good that I'm not there
I covered all the Spectrums I came across... :)
The intermediary operator helped cancel! thank God :) otherwise you don’t want to go to prison!
Now I placed a purchase order with these same intermediaries and told them everything
I'm waiting for the money from the Web Money cards to arrive in my account, then I can continue to order
push!
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
I don't know a foreign language well
what I was asked to confirm I saw and understood
but to sit for three hours to read English text, or even more so German, which I
I don’t know at all what’s wrong with me...
I would read it in Russian
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
How can I cancel a bet?
I changed my mind but the auction is not over yet, how can I cancel?
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> if it's not a secret
I have no secrets for Polar Bears!
I called the ICQ number, which is given on the intermediaries’ website, there are three of them,
Russian, European, and American. I wrote in European, there with me
spoke Russian. I cried tearfully and said that I was bidding for two frots,
I won one product and I don’t need the second one anymore...
Then the operator asked how much time was left?
I said there were 22 hours left.
After which he rummaged around somewhere and asked, I can delete it, but I need yours
login and password!
Well, I gave it to him, what can I do :) we are cheerful Russian vans!
Well, the guy took it and deleted it, I received an answer from ebay that I had lost
leadership...
I went to my MayBay account and there was no trace even of the links...
That’s when I found her and became convinced that my name was no longer among the leaders there and beeps
became 1 less :) that's all.
To be honest, I don’t know, maybe you could have done it yourself, but then
the operator told me this... although I don’t know why he needs a password... maybe he logged in from
my name and asked the seller to remove the beep, we can only guess!!!
:v2_wacko:
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> I think it will cost the same in Russia as in America.
I think it’s possible through an intermediary in Europe, he’s in Germany for 8
forward..
and they will send it to me!
It will still be cheaper than 45...
And then who told you that I am now obliged to buy one hundred percent?
Nobody told me anything about this, I participated in the action like in others,
no one warned anything
but if they throw me out, I can log in under a different name
and finally I don’t intend to teach fascists, they could write important things in English
things... once they sell to the whole world
Plus this spec is now quietly being sold again under the same lot....
How to understand this?
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Learn fucking German or use a dictionary.
there the same phrase is written three times and costs different prices...
I already use a dictionary
ice> YOU MUST NOW PAY FOR WHAT YOU BOUGHT.
Well, right now I’m in the lead, how can I change it then?
that now I can't bid lower?
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> I think it will cost the same in Russia as in America.
ice>
ice> So we can congratulate you on your successful investment of more than 100 euros.
No, most likely the cost will be the same as in Europe, at least when going to Europe
I send the cost is about the same.
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Andreas Kaiser
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> well, right now I’m in the lead, how can I change then?
len> that now I can’t place a lower bid?
No way. Pray that they beat the price.
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> How can I cancel a bet?
len> I changed my mind but the auction is not over yet, how can I cancel?
Roughly speaking, no way. You can cancel only in “emergency” cases, like I wrote
one more zero (for example, instead of 100 I wrote 1000, etc.). In general it is written in
ebay rules, read them. By the way, when you place a bet, you are asked two
times. Eh, if only you lived in Europe with such attention and understanding, they would rip you off like
sticky in the first six months on all kinds of insurance and other things.
PS: At the very least, you can “turn on the fool” on the topic “which ebay? I haven’t seen it, haven’t
heard, didn't register."
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> I canceled all the guys...
len> wow, Mishka scared me, I'm law-abiding....:) it's good that I am
len> I didn’t put all the Spectrums I came across...:)
len>
len> The intermediary operator helped cancel! thank God :) otherwise I won’t go to jail
len> hunting!
What prison are you going to?! At most you would be kicked out of ebay because you
you are physically in Russia. I wonder how you canceled it, and what the
intermediaries, if it's not a secret? Although, maybe now the rules have become softer, before it was
this is tough. We need to take a look.
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23 August 2006
Hello, lennon
len> Dear trunin_juliy,
len>
len> Congratulations! You committed to buy the following item;
len>;
len>
len> ZX Spectrum +3 mit Laufwerk, geprьft, komplett
len> Sale price;
len>; EUR 99.00
len> Quantity;
len>; 1
len> Subtotal;
len>; EUR 99.00
len> Postage & Handling;
len>; Versicherter Versand;
len>; EUR 8.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item.
len> Versicherter Versand;
len>; EUR 20.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item.
len> Versicherter Versand;
len>; EUR 45.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item.
len>
len> Sales tax; (none);
len>
len>
len> Правда если честно, его просто никто не брал и время уже давно
len> закончилось, я просто дал цену которую просил продавец, коэфф 1, такlen> they have it among the Nazis.. :v2_finge;
So; so, you bought from the "fascists" about whom I told you, this
www.sintech.de. By the way, axor should know them, he told them about 5 years ago in SUC Session
(in Germany there is a Spectrum User Club, SUC) I once sent a letter, I even
This magazine is still there :) I could buy them through the website. You bought a Spectrum
without bargaining, he was not “lying” there, this is the so-called. Sofortkauf (no idea how to
English, but you can look at ebay.com). According to ebay rules, YOU MUST NOW
PAY FOR WHAT YOU BOUGHT. If you refuse, you will be kicked out of ebay. I would be in
Germany, they would also drag you to court, then you would buy a Spectrum and pay for the court
would. So you don’t have to look at any Portuguese Spectrums (or you
want to buy two at once?).
len> The site is in German, there is also a completed term +2 and just lying around
len> +, prices are high especially for +!
len> I don’t even know yet, there is also Tugalese there, it’s much cheaper for now
len> they took me from 75 to 76 :v2_scare; ,; but I'm at the end tomorrow
len> I'll try to beat these bastards!
Well, well.
len> P.S. The only thing that is not clear is that these fascists gave delivery in three
len> options for different prices without specifying which one...len> well, at least they could write the name!
Learn fucking German or use a dictionary.
Versicherter Versand;
EUR; 8.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item. - insured
parcel within Germany
Versicherter Versand;
EUR; 20.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item. - insured
parcel within Europe (you are NOT in Europe)
Versicherter Versand;
EUR; 45.00 for first item, EUR 0.00 for each additional item. - insured
parcels across North and South America.
I think in Russia it will cost the same as in America.
So we can congratulate you on your successful investment of more than 100 euros.
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
I was cheated more on transactions...
First I bought web money in dollars for rubles...
paid for the service of the machine, for the card itself, plus for the transfer from rubles to
bucks...
then I sent these cards to the intermediary, there he charged me for transferring to the system account
and for transferring from dollars to euros
So think about it...
Here I got terribly burned :) but I knew all this, I was the one who looked for the machine gun, and so
If I were to buy cards on the Euroset, I would add another 500 rubles from this amount
burnt out :) but that would be complete crap!
And if I had transferred euros from my wallet to their account, I would have lost a penny, that’s all
parsley, transaction costs have probably decreased by 10 times!!!
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
All guys, the money has arrived in the intermediary’s account! :v2_cheer;
Order; I created it, I just have to wait for confirmation during the day!!! :v2_smoke;
After; I will arrange the parcel! :v2_yahoo:
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Yuliy Trunin
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> and what kind of intermediaries
ordinary intermediaries, CHRV advised, I buy through them!
http://www.westernbid.com/
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Gee-gee. It remains to find out in what way
And I chose the simple option! just regular mail via plane without insurance.
It could have been the same with their insurance, you just had to choose a different type! he
more expensive
And the German bastards, on the lot they wrote that they would send to Russia for 20 and then in the letter they said 41...
Plus, keep in mind that you had to negotiate payment with him, they generally paypal
asked...
And I only have 5 days left to pay!
In the end, if everything turns out fine, then I won’t lose anything, I would still just
I wouldn’t come to an agreement with them, I don’t really know the language, the payment system either, which one
am I a dealmaker? I'm an ordinary, unaware buyer; a middleman is just right for me!
he knows everything and will do everything! There is no point in deceiving them, go to their website and you will see
They make a lot of money from this and not a little! Why would they spoil their name?
And as for the fact that it gets lost, nothing works worse than our mail, I
mother from Baikonur sent several times, everything came... although there is Kazakhstan and
wild horror...
and here from Europe practically to Moscow...
business what is there to lose!!!
I'm more afraid that they might confuse building B with B and bring the ticket to B
neighboring house... I wrote it in small letters specifically for this purpose, so that she wouldn’t
coincided with the Russian century.
In general, you can at least send US government mail from them, they will bring
and still deployed!It’s good for you, you have a credit card there, you paid for it and know trouble plus 8 euros for
forwarding!!!
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> I already wrote to you in the PS, go to sintech.de
I can't go to this address
I've already told you this a hundred times!!!!
Plus, I'm not particularly pissed off...
Everything is quite normal, the only thing I could have done was simply made it myself cheaper
look, although I don't know the Germans say it's from a warehouse, but there, basically everything is used
with floppy disks...
So maybe it’s good that it happened this way
I'd rather take a new one.
Or do you disagree with me here too!?
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> I was cheated more on transactions...
You fooled yourself. I already wrote to you in the PS, go to sintech.de, write to them at
in broken German/English/Swahili that you want to buy something from them, emphasizing
what is in Russia. They themselves fuss and look for the best option for you.
forwarding + money transfer option. You thank them, pay and wait for the parcel.
Was it that hard to do, or were you on fire? It will still be a month.
And now, God forbid, some uncle Vasya will knock your box from a hangover into the carriage and you
If you get not the Spectrum itself, but a puzzle from it, then you won’t attract anyone for it,
consider only giving money.
BIG CORRECTION: The correct URL is http://www.sintech-shop.de.
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23 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> As a result, the Germans asked for 41 euros for shipping, it turns out 99+41=140!
len> The intermediaries charged 8 for Germany, 20 for the service, it turns out
len> 8+20+99=127!
len> And shipping within the CIS by plane costs 6 euros :) ha ha and that’s the amount to pay
len> 133 suprative 140 among the Germans!
Gee-gee. All that remains is to find out how the intermediary will deliver this parcel to you.
The Germans would have sent it by plane and with insurance, that’s why it costs 41 euros. And here's yours
the intermediary cheated you out of 15 euros, will send a parcel with some bus through
some kind of Russian store, but in Poland they will slow down the driver and say, “What is this?”
you"? What did the intermediary send? And how much money did he make for your inability?
read?
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23 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Spectrum, and the puzzle is from it, then you won’t attract anyone for this, consider
ice> just gave away the money.
well, you sound like the last pessimist :)
this Spectrum was still being transported from Amsterdam to Germany and was already abandoned and kicked
What kind of fauberge eggs are there to make you so nervous?
:)
Moreover, all normal people have been sent by mail all their lives, and the packaging
it's made of foam!!!
So I will finally join in
They will send it to me for 99, well, let it be euros and not pounds, and by mail!
Just like they wrote in the book!!! :v2_rolley
You could say it was a childhood dream come true, I earned it myself, I bought it myself, it’s real
Spectrum:v2_blush; .;
I hope he comes, they will now wait :v2_smoke:
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
better look at what I found on the forum!
http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=147&highlight=%E4%E8%F1%EA%EE%E2%EE%E4+3.5
[http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=147&highlight=%E4%E8%F1%EA%EE%E2%EE%E4+3.5]
Now all doubts have disappeared! If you still show enthusiasm and make it normal
The front panel of the drive will be as good as new and you won’t be able to tell it apart!
By the way, they say that you can just cut the regular 3.5 and it will work
by +3dos
but this option doesn’t work because you won’t find any games at +3 anyway
So I'll beta
I just can’t find the trouble yet where to get a normal compact beta...
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24 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> all on
everyone and people are unequal
scl> find the diagram and assemble it yourself.
you still have to order the printed circuit board
and you still need to dilute it according to the scheme...
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24 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> I hate people who joke with things that their own grandfathers fell in the fight against
ok, let's talk here...
What do you think my grandfathers would not understand if I was making fun of the fascists or
let's say over the Germans?
It is no coincidence that it was the Germans who picked up this idea of fascism...
They are really a very cool nation, they have many scientists and philosophers, all
The structure of modern science is at least 70% formed by the Germans.
So they got arrogant, because no matter how hard the pathetic political leader tries, let him
Even someone as crazy as Hitler still can’t inspire people with Nietzsche’s idea of
superman, but in such a perverted form that now all the other sheep must be
soak...
Since the German people fell for this, it means they really seriously considered themselves
the best nation in the world...
Therefore, sometimes you need to make fun of them so that they are not forgotten!
This can also be said about Russians; right now in youth circles it’s not
Rarely do nationalist movements like fascism arise...
As for me, I respect any person if he is a real person and it doesn’t matter what kind
is his nationality, black or Papuan...
I have a lot of friends, both Caucasians and Kazakhs... and nothing.
Another thing is that their way of life is different and if they have their own laws
I’m starting to come into our country, it’s not good!
If they came to us, then let them live the same way as we do, in my opinion this is fairand has nothing to do with nationality!
and finally forget about this topic!
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Hello Lennon
len> Since the German people fell for it, it means they are really serious
len> considered themselves the best nation in the world...
did they all fall for it? don't tell me my slippers
len> But I can’t find the trouble yet where to get a normal compact one
len> beta...
find a diagram and assemble it yourself.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> stop driving, are you offended?
len> or are you a fascist?
len> or are you German?
len> Well bear, okay, he’s in their trench now, and you? Why did you shout?
len> And then the moderators scolded when fascism is glorified, and not
len> ridiculed
len> oh well, I won’t, you’re boring....
I hate people who joke with things that their own grandfathers fell in the fight against. and also
I hate racists, nationalists and others.
How old are you, "Mr. Smartest"?
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> www.worldofspectrum.org
They have some things there that don’t load
and for some reason the downloaded archives do not open
Perhaps they are packed with a DOS archiver...
or xs
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> The C grade is missing. Now at least one Spectrum can be tracked
ice> at least the sunset of his life
she won’t get anything, but just buy it as a museum piece and use German
floppy disks are not interesting!
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> What German floppy disks????
Well, they mostly sell Amstrad floppy disks
here on ebay they told me
Your PayPal payment has been sent. Thank you.
Does this mean that the item has been paid for?
There it became possible to vote for seller status, positive negative and
etc.
However, for some reason the time left remains... this is how to understand when it is time
will it stop?
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> well, they mostly sell Amstrad floppy disks
Where did you get the idea?
len> they told me here on ebay
len> Your PayPal payment has been sent. Thank you.
len> Does this mean that the lot has been paid for?
Yes.
len> There was an opportunity to vote for seller status, positive
len> negative, etc.
Please rate when everything arrives.
len> However, for some reason the time left remains... this is how to understand when it is
len> will time stop?
I already explained this to you.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> she won't get anything, but just buy it as a museum piece and use it
len> German floppy disks are not interesting!
What German floppy disks????
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> By the way, they say that you can just cut the regular 3.5 and it will be
len> work on +3dos
len> but this option doesn’t work because there aren’t really any games under +3
len> you will find
www.worldofspectrum.org
len> So I will bet Beta
len> But I can’t find the trouble yet where to get a normal compact one
len> beta...
Three missing. Now at least one Spectrum can be tracked
the sunset of his life.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> so this is mukhanism!
len> If payment is by PayPal, then a percentage will be taken from the amount that will be received by the seller!
len> And if the amount has not arrived, then ebay will prick the buyer
len> kick them out to the courts there :)
len> And in case of payment not through PayPal, I can’t even imagine, maybe you
len> he scared me for nothing... and no one will even bother with anything there.
len> It’s just that if the purchase is not recorded, you will have a reputation
len> fall and that's it
len> it’s getting younger! :)
Once again (the last time), slowly: ebay records the transaction, aka the purchase. Did you give it away?
You didn’t give the money to the seller - it’s a purple matter. ebay immediately withdraws its percentage,
and then there are the problems of sellers/buyers. ebay with no one ever and not for
whoever is deceived is sued - they ultimately provide a service, read
are the holders of the market territory where all buying/selling takes place.
For example, tanks have already been sold on ebay.
The rules do not depend on the type of payment. They also do not take a percentage of the shipping amount,
This is often used when they write the shipping price, inflating it, well, they write like
"by registered mail", but sent by regular mail. For this, their rating is then lowered.
deceived buyers.Reputation does not automatically fall. You enter it manually, just like
seller. Can you write some more explanatory text why this rating is made? By the way,
This assessment is voluntary, you are not obliged to give it.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> just says I can’t open it!
tell me the name of the archiver and the version (if anything, download the newest one), and also
extension of the downloaded archive
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> everyone and people are unequal
in this context, by everyone I meant the entire German people.
len> and for some reason the downloaded archives do not open
len> maybe they are packed with a DOS archiver...
len> or xs
just find the latest version of winrar, it will even open *.7z for you. and Dosovsky
or a non-DOS archiver for winrar plays absolutely no role. what
The archiver displays what message? Maybe the archive was broken during downloading? or
Was the broken one posted initially?
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24 August 2006
Hello, scl^mc
scl> the archiver for winrar plays absolutely no role. what
scl> the archiver displays what message? maybe when downloading archive
scl> broken? or was it originally posted?
It just says I can’t open it!
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
2Bear
here when you and Zerius were still chatting about +3
You said that you are also hunting for +3!
There right now the Germans are selling this +3 and they have 2 pieces available for purchase.
Perhaps these are the last two left :) so take it! All the more to you
will cost 107 euros! You are unlikely to find it cheaper, as I showed above the bargaining for
Portuguese... he left without delivery for 122.5 dollars, which is about 94 euros
plus delivery from the ports, it will be the same 107, maybe a little less.
Of course, if you hang out there, you can probably find it cheaper and with a box of CDs,
but as I understand it, the Germans sell a new one, and that’s cool! :)
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> took their percentage from the seller and left.
So this is Mohanism!
If the payment is by PayPal, then a percentage will be deducted from the amount that will be received by the seller!
And if the amount hasn’t arrived then ebay will try to kick the buyer out
run courts :)
And in case of payment not through PayPal, I can’t even imagine, maybe you
In general, I scared for nothing... and no one will even rock the boat there.
It’s just that if the purchase is not fixed, your reputation will fall and
everything
but it’s getting younger, idk! :)
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> I already explained this to you
I don’t remember that we discussed the time for which you need to pay for the goods...
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> I am Icebear, not Beer Ice, not Mishutka, not Polar Bear and not Bear
Well, finally, I didn’t notice the first time :v2_finge;
A; It’s not you on the avatar either, and what’s depicted there has nothing to do with icebear
doesn't have? :v2_lol;
Ha; as much as my broken English allows me to know: v2_yahoo; y; them it
snow bear, and we have a polar bear!
And it’s easier to communicate in Russian, that’s why I translate!
But beer is spelled differently! :v2_tong2;
:v2_cheer:; when the spec arrives, I’ll go to CHRV for the DVD and grab the spec at the same time,
unless of course he is interested in looking at the miracle, it’s a pity that you are in Moscow
no, otherwise I would also like a beer with ice :v2_cheer;
so many; spent his nerves on me :v2_yahoo; !;
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Who said that this is the time for which you need to pay for the goods?
and where is the time for which you need to pay? Or this time is just for reference
in the payment details section? Isn't there a countdown?
And let’s say if I didn’t pay, the seller tells the auction that I’m a scoundrel and I
Do I need to drive it or is it somehow done automatically?
Let’s say it wasn’t the intermediary who would pay for me through PayPal, but I would with these
the Germans himself agreed and would have paid by transfer, as the ebay system would have found out about
payment?
P.S. Now I’m sitting waiting for the intermediary to arrive at the warehouse, the money is already
paid.
And my mail is by air courier, plus customs is paid at the post office upon receipt,
and with any delivery method. So, in my opinion, many stores on the Internet
are working.
Although, in principle, I can still change the delivery type now, you can do it according to
call and talk about delivery, what and how, and what is best...
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Once again (last), slowly: ebay records the transaction, aka
ice> purchase.
then why the hell should I be kicked out of ebay for unpaid goods?
So the seller would have screwed me over? or do you think he would complain to ebay?
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> Well, you got excited about the kilogram of weight. And so, I'll tell you, you would
ice> overpaid by 5 euros more (I admit that they do this in Russia
ice> a big difference) and there would be no hassle with intermediaries and so on. You
ice> It’s better to find out from them whether the parcel is insured or not? And then, think about it
ice> the seller sent this parcel to someone in Germany, this someone
ice> the parcel does not open and the computer does not check, it sends it to yours
ice> to the intermediary, he gives it to you, you open the box, everything looks like
ice> is intact, you turn it on - it doesn't work. Who should I ask? From the seller? He is for you
ice> will answer “you didn’t report anything upon receipt, that means everything happened
ice> it's fine, so rest, man." From an intermediary? He will tell you
ice> "Did you pay for your purchase on ebay? Paid. Did you receive the parcel? Received it.
ice> Rest."
In the company description +3 it says 1.5 the salesman said 1 kg and that’s how it goes for me :)
Apparently they rounded it up, though idk :) maybe they’ll weigh it later and adjust the weight.
Regarding verification, the intermediary has a service that costs 10 euros, you can
was to take advantage of her.Regarding the difference of 5 euros, in Russia, especially in Moscow, many people don’t care about it
not money.
And don’t forget about PayPal, it’s a big plus! No hassles, they work with you
like with a white forehead.
If you know another channel through which you can pay, so that they look askance at you
If you haven’t watched it, tell me it will be interesting to try!
Maybe I can buy some more cassettes or vintage mafonchik pansonic there mono
or something else, for playing cassettes! Constantly on every little thing
negotiate with the Germans and generally invent with non-Germans, it’s easier to use
intermediary.
If you are afraid of loss, you can have it all there with insurance!
The Germans are not fools either, do you think they don’t make money from shipping?
Heh, just get going!
They were supposed to send it to me for 20 euros as in Europe, as ebay informed me about,
and they broke 41 bucks, so what the heck!
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24 August 2006
Hello icebear
ice> .e. Are you afraid of loss or functionality? Live richly
ice> you won't ban
Yes, I count on their integrity and don’t want to overpay...
They have a very high rating on eBay.
I don’t have any extra money in my account... Perhaps when the package arrives it will turn out that
it’s heavier, which is most likely, then delivery will be not 6 but 12 :) and I only have
With 12 euros left in your account, run and buy cards again at an exorbitant price?
but I don’t want to bother with my wallet yet
ice> Mlyn, you don't work directly with PP. What white people are we talking about?
Through them I can do everything that you do!
Even participating in an auction where goods are sold only in English is acceptable..
if without them, then I’ll simply cancel my beep after a while and write you from
Russian Federation please specify your location :)
And through them you can place a bet, the only thing is that they don’t work at night and if
the trading time ends late and your bet is small, you can lose
lot!
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> I don’t remember that we discussed the time for which you need to pay for the goods...
Who said that this is the time for which you need to pay for the goods? It's time before
end of the auction. And I told you about this.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> then why the hell should they kick me out of ebay for unpaid
len> product?
len> It turns out the seller would have screwed me over? or do you think he would complain
len> ebay?
In short, I have no strength. Learn Albanian or English and smoke ebay disclaimer.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> and where is the time for which you need to pay? Or is this time given only
len> for reference in the payment details section? And so countdown it
len> is not maintained?
There is no such time anywhere. It seems that according to ebay rules, two weeks of time are given
only to establish contact between seller/buyer.
len> And let's say if I didn't pay, the seller tells the auction that I
len> scoundrel and I need to be driven away or is this somehow done automatically?
No idea. It never came to this for me.
len> Let's say it wasn't the intermediary who would pay for me through PayPal, but I would
len> with these Germans he himself agreed and would pay by transfer, like the system
len> Would ebay know about the payment?
No way. They are absolutely not interested in this. They recorded the fact of sale, removed
their percentage from the seller and they left.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> You scared me yesterday with the mail, so as I said above, I decided
len> contact the intermediary and get advice on delivery!
len> ...
len> P.S. It turns out to get from Germany
len> you need to pay +6+8+20=34 euros, plus this includes the payment service
len> paypal, which is very important and convenient, on ebay everything looks as if
len> you paid...
Well, about the kilogram of weight, you got excited. Otherwise, I’ll tell you, you would have overpaid by 5
more euros (I admit that in Russia this makes a big difference) and there wouldn’t be
hassles with intermediaries and so on. You better find out from them whether the parcel is insured or
no? And then, think about it, the seller sent this parcel to someone in Germany,
this someone doesn’t open the parcel and the computer doesn’t check it, sends it to yours
to the intermediary, he gives it to you, you open the box, everything looks intact,
turn it on - it doesn't work. Who should I ask? From the seller? He will answer you "you are
nothing was reported when we received it, so everything was fine, so rest
man." From an intermediary? He will tell you, “Did you pay for your purchase on ebay? Paid.”
Did you receive the parcel? Got it. Rest."
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> In the company description +3 it is written 1.5 the salesman reported 1 kg it is so
len> he’s coming for me :) apparently they rounded it up, though idk :) maybe they’ll weigh it later
len> will improve weight.
Everything must be sent to Russia in iron boxes, otherwise it will be like a joke
:)
len> Regarding verification, the intermediary has a service that costs 10
len> Eureka, you could have used it.
Well, why didn’t you use it?
len> And don’t forget about PayPal, this is a big plus! No hassles, with you
len> work as with a white forehead.
Mlyn, you don't work directly with PP. What white people are we talking about?
len> Constantly negotiate on every little thing with the Germans and with the non-Germans
len> generally invent, it’s easier to use an intermediary.
The main stream of Spectrum and everything around the Spectrum comes from England. You stumbled upon
not the only seller who is from Germany.
len> If you are afraid of loss, you can have it all there with insurance!
That is Are you afraid of loss or functionality? Don't live richly
you will prohibit.
len> The Germans are not fools either, do you think they don’t make money from shipping?
Less than buying through their website.len> They should have sent it to me for 20 euros as in Europe, what am I talking about
len> Ebay reported, and they broke 41 bucks, so screw them!
They don't owe you anything. Secondly, you are not in Europe.
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24 August 2006
Hello Lennon
len> 2Bear
I am Icebear, not Beer Ice, not Mishutka, not Polar Bear and not Bear. Try your best
remember.
len> here when you and Zerius were still chatting about +3
len> you said that you are also hunting for +3!
len> Right now the Germans are selling this +3 and they have 2 pieces available for purchase.
len> Perhaps these are the last two left :) so take it! Even more so for you
len> will cost 107 euros in total! You'll hardly find it cheaper than I did above
len> showed a trade for Portuguese... it went without delivery for 122.5
len> dollars is about 94 euros plus delivery from the ports, it will be the same
len> 107 well, maybe a little less.
First of all, don't tell me how to buy on ebay. Secondly, buy a computer for 99 euros -
I’m not a fool and I don’t sleep with a millionaire’s daughter (with 99 euros I can eat here
I'll take it for two weeks). Thirdly, I bought a ZX Spectrum+ on ebay for 28 euros -
feel the difference :)
len> Of course, if you hang out there, you can probably find it cheaper with
len> a box of discs, but as I understand it, the Germans sell a new one, and that’s cool!
len> :)
I'm left wondering, how did they still have so many new ones after almost 20 years? AIt turns out there are no new ones. There it is written in German on white “In a condition close to
to the new." By the way, if something happens, their smart Germans can fuck them for this, because according to
according to ebay rules, if you designate a product as new, then it must be
really new. You can just go to court and sue for the price of a new one +3
for no reason.
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26 August 2006
Hello Lennon
2icebear
The Germans' website is up and running!
the computer really costs 99 bucks
and for 27 it was a light pen for +3 :), learn Albanian :)
I saw several more disk interfaces there!
Look what these things are? Maybe one of them supports TR-DOS?
http://www.sintech-shop.de/shop.htm
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27 August 2006
Hello Lennon
ice> I don't understand a damn thing. Where did you get the info about +3 for 37 euros?
It turned out to be a light pen
the computer itself is STO 99, just like on ebay
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1 September 2006
Hello Lennon
Speck moved to the intermediaries' warehouse a week later!
Now I'm waiting to be sent home to Russia! to his second homeland :)
There, in captivity of the Germans, he probably had a hard time!
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Hello Lennon
Most likely you'll have to wait about a month, I've already been through this
until the goods accumulate in the warehouse of the intermediary for Russia, until they reach us,
It will take about a week to sort out the received cargo.
although pregrad.net’s deadlines may be faster in your case
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3 September 2006
Hello Lennon
is this interesting to someone :v2_eek:
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3 September 2006
Hello, goodboy
goo> is this interesting to someone
It will probably be of interest to those who want to buy +3 through an intermediary
Useful information is the delivery time in Germany.