From
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
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To
All
18 July 2002
Hello, All!
Subject This is a ZX-BUS bus splitter from one device to three.
In the best and optimal case - with the correct metric slots from PC type
"Agate". It is possible without slots at all (only a board with buffer chips).
All sorts of crooked options (with sawed-off slots from PCs of the “Search” type)
undesirable, but if done well, it’s also good.
* Original written in MO.ZX
* also sent to FLASH.LOCAL
* also sent to ZX.SPECTRUM
*also sent to REAL.SPECCY
* also sent to MO.SALE
* also sent to PVT.EXCH.COMPUTER
WBR, Jason.
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From
Alexandr Kushnikov
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To
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
22 July 2002
Greetings, Valerij
Thu 18 Jul 2002 at 21:30:06 Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> All on the topic Buying Christmas trees for
Scorpa.
VK> Subject. This is a ZX-BUS bus splitter from one device to
VK> three.
VK> In the best and optimal case - with the right ones
VK> metric slots from PCs of the "Agate" type. It’s possible without
VK> slots (only board with buffer chips).
VK> All sorts of crooked options (with sawn slots from
VK> PCs like "Search") are undesirable, but if done well
VK> - also good.
I can sell it as unnecessary. I bought it for myself - I thought I’d buy a GS, and then
changed my mind.
This thing is native Scorpio. Has two blue slots, but it looks like
sawn, and free space for the third. Slots are right for everything
Scorpio periphery.
I’m selling it at what I paid for it myself - $10.
Best regards, Alexander Kushnikov aka Sander.
From
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
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To
Alexandr Kushnikov
27 July 2002
Hello, Alexandr!
22 Jul 02 23:26, Alexandr Kushnikov -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
VK>> All sorts of crooked options (with sawn slots from
VK>> PCs like "Search") are undesirable, but if done well
VK>> - also good.
AK> I can sell it as it is unnecessary. I bought it for myself - I thought I’d buy GS, and then
AK> changed my mind. This thing is native Scorpio. Has two blue slots
AK> but it looks like they were sawn, and there is free space for the third. The slots are correct for
AK> of the entire Scorpio periphery. I’m selling at what I paid for it myself - $10.
Holy shit. The other day I paid 100 rubles. I bought an EGA monitor and a 120 MB screw. And here is the tree without
slots and three times more expensive.
50 rub. and no more.
WBR, Jason.
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From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
13 August 2002
Hello Valerij!
27 Jul 02 12:08, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Alexandr Kushnikov:
VK> Holy shit. The other day I paid 100 rubles. I bought an EGA monitor and a 120 MB screw. And here
By the way, there is also a 540MB screw. Also 100 rubles (or maybe even cheaper). But
There are several bad things.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
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To
Eugene Palenock
15 August 2002
Hello Eugene!
13 Aug 02 15:12, Eugene Palenock -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
VK>> Holy shit. The other day I paid 100 rubles. I bought an EGA monitor and a 120 MB screw. And here
EP> By the way, there is also a 540MB screw. Also 100 rubles (and maybe even cheaper).
EP> But there are several bad things.
I saw it and refused.
I took 120, even if it was stepper, but it was BBB.
Hmm. Where can I get a low level hdd format utility like the one found in BIOSes?
Modern screws only simulate the execution of the "#50" Format track command, in reality
You can format something only using the additional register. commands But what do you need there?
write it down for this?
WBR, Jason.
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From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Valerij Kozhevnikoff
16 August 2002
Hello Valerij!
15 Aug 02 23:25, Valerij Kozhevnikoff -> Eugene Palenock:
VK> Hmm. Where can I get the low level hdd format utility like the one in the BIOS
On the website of the manufacturer of the screw you need.
VK> Modern screws only imitate the execution of the command "#50"
VK> Format track, you can really format something only using
VK> additional register commands But what needs to be written there for this?
I suspect that nothing more can be done...
Now it has become fashionable, instead of format files, to supply utilities to the screw that
are scored with zeros. And, by the way, it helps - at DTLA some bad problems are treated, and in general
error seek rate changes greatly for the better.
There is, of course, the pc3kv9 package, but it doesn’t know screws newer than 2000, and v11 costs about
600$ and now it can no longer be broken as before (the controller was redone, the software
the emulator on the IDE bus no longer works). If the pc3kv9 screw knows, then you can
format (and not all of them), servo track edit/rewrite, different settings
change, etc.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Wladimir Bulchukey
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To
Eugene Palenock
17 August 2002
Excuse me... That is, sorry already, Eugene...!
16 Aug 02 20:03, Eugene Palenock -> Valerij Kozhevnikoff:
EP> I suspect that nothing more can be done...
EP> Now it has become fashionable to supply utilities to the screw instead of format files
EP> it is filled with zeros. And, by the way, it helps - at DTLA some bad problems are treated
EP> and
EP> in general the error seek rate is changing a lot for the better.
EP> Of course there is a pc3kv9 package, but it doesn’t know screws newer than 2000, but v11 costs
EP> about 600$ and now it can no longer be broken as before (there is a controller
EP> has been redone, the software emulator for the IDE bus no longer works). If pc3kv9
EP> screw knows - you can format it (and not all of them), servo track
EP> edit/rewrite, change various settings, etc.
Yeah, it turns out that you can’t format a modern screw for a Spec or Sprinter! (?)
Therefore, you need to do FAT32 under Spec, yes! (?)
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From
Eugene Palenock
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
18 August 2002
Hello, Wladimir!
17 Aug 02 22:05, Wladimir Bulchukey -> Eugene Palenock:
WB> Yeah, it turns out that a modern propeller is no longer suitable for Spec or Sprinter
WB> format! (?)
No one has ever formatted it using Spectrum. The physical format of the screw is always
and everywhere - 512 bytes/sector.
WB> Therefore, you need to do FAT32 under Spec, yes! (?)
What does the Windows file system have to do with it?
PS The screws are formatted only for (attempts to) treat bad sectors.
Best regards, Evgeniy.
From
Alexandr Kushnikov
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To
Wladimir Bulchukey
3 September 2002
Greetings, Wladimir
Sat 17 Aug 2002 at 22:05:12 Wladimir Bulchukey -> Eugene Palenock on the topic Buy
Christmas trees for Scorpio.
EP>> I suspect that nothing more can be done...
EP>> Now it has become fashionable to supply format files to the screw
EP>> utilities that
EP>> it is filled with zeros. And, by the way, it helps - on the DTLA part
EP>> bads are being treated,
EP>> and
EP>> in general, the error seek rate is changing greatly for the better.
EP>> Of course there is a pc3kv9 package, but it has screws newer than 2000
EP>> doesn’t know, but v11 is worth it
EP>> about $600 and now it can no longer be broken as before (there
EP>> controller
EP>> redesigned, the software emulator on the IDE bus is no longer
EP>> works). If pc3kv9
EP>> the screw knows that it can be formatted (and not all of them),
EP>> servo track
EP>> edit/rewrite, change different settings and
EP>> etc.
WB> Yeah, it turns out that a modern propeller is already suitable for Spec or Sprinter
WB> you can’t format it! (?)WB> Therefore, you need to do FAT32 under Spec, yes! (?)
After everything I’ve read on this topic, my message is most likely addressed to Valera.
You can buy a screw with 666 to store insignificant information that you don’t mind
lose. PC is also suitable for storage.
I just have a different view on this problem. First of all, I need my
information was not lost and equipment did not break down.
That's why I always buy screws without 666. Although now I can't find a screw with a small
volume and not broken is not easy.
As for the price I offered you for the “tee” - yes, it’s high - you can
find it cheaper. But I don’t really want to sell it, so you’ll find it cheaper.
But I have it new and I just don’t need it and at the same time it doesn’t bother me because
that I’m not going to leave Specky.
Best regards, Alexander Kushnikov aka Sander.