Turbo Video v9990
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Hello dhau
dha> My suggestions for the title:
dha>
dha> BFG 9990 (BFG == Blazing Fast Graphics? May you remember doom1&2...)
dha> General Video (spit under General Sound)
dha> Turbo Video (spit under Turbo Sound / Turbo FM)
dha>
dha> Add :)
I liked the last name and shared the topic :).
Adrian, as always, gets to the root of things!
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WBR, CHRV aka Chunin Roman
Hello, CHRV
dha> By the way, on MSX there is BASIC for V9990, and since the graphics hardly load
dha> Z80, very impressive games are written on it. Maybe this way
dha> dig?
Wow!!!!!!!!
We need normal “developer software”, not all sorts of demos...
An analogue of Yamaha's BASIC would be the best option for tinkering with the subject.
About the name - Turbo Video v9990 because of the "braid for Turbo Sound / Turbo FM"
it seems that we are talking about two chips on one board%) Something like Extended would be better
Video v9990 or Enhanced Video v9990.
WBR, fan aka Alexander Zan
Hello ASDT
Exactly, exactly, everything is in the garden... You give 1 piece of ordinary pastyrilized crap. and not
I need to shaggy grandma :v2_lol:
WBR, fan aka Alexander Zan
Hello, CHRV
"I hope at least one coder" ... this is unlikely :(
Therefore, the topic can be closed.
WBR, ASDT aka Victor
Hello jtn
jtn> laughed for half an hour.... people come up with names and how to write games in
jtn> BASIC. Well, well... you'll achieve a lot this way. (I hope at least one coder
jtn> will speak out in this thread)
But we have nothing to do - so we sit, mock, and do all sorts of bullshit... :).
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Hello fan
So, when I come to Moscow, I’ll confiscate one piece :)
in lollipop there are breadboards for qfp-0.8 for 40 rubles...
name - stop using the "turbo" ;) we need something more fun
come up with ;) well, there's SkyVision (and the computer will be SkyNet: D), ShamanVideo (feat.
voodoo), NedoForce :D some...
WBR, Ronin aka Victor Roni
Hello, CHRV
Is this VRAM a regular DRAM?
I have several chips in DIP-20 package type 44256. These are 4-bit x
256-KWords. Those. 128 kilobytes per device. I made them from old video cards
sawed/unsoldered and used them to make internal memory upgrades for MSX2+ computers
Added: by the way, for some reason I bought 500 1x256K NEC 41256-10 microcircuits (case
DIP-18). This is the same as RU7. Any ideas on what to do with them other than “decorate”
toilet walls? :)
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Hello jtn
jtn> there's a catch somewhere here. ru7 and 41256 were always in deep16
You're right! DIP-16 is it. Something went wrong with my leg counting. Interesting -
Is it possible to hang four 41256 instead of one 44256? in theory it is quite possible.
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Hello dhau
dha> 1x256K NEC 41256-10 (DIP-18 housing). This is the same as RU7.
There's a catch somewhere here. ru7 and 41256 were always in deep16
Hello, CHRV
What is not a post is optimism :D
Better tell me where this VRAM (256k x 4) can be torn out.
Hello Ronin
Ron> so, when I come to Moscow, I’ll confiscate one piece :)
Ron> in lollipop there are breadboards for qfp-0.8 for 40 rubles...
Ron> name - stop exploiting the "turbo" ;) we need something more fun
Ron> come up with it ;) well, there's SkyVision (and the computer will be SkyNet :D), ShamanVideo
Ron> (feat. voodoo), NedoForce :D some...
I propose to name the topic of the day ZX-END!
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Hello fan
fan> What is not a post is optimism :D
fan>
fan> Better tell me where you can rip out this VRAM (256k x 4).
I'll bring twenty of them from Kytai!
In general, look at different video cards!
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Hello dhau
No, this is not a simple DRAM.
here it looks like - MSM514252A
http://www2.okisemi.com/site/productscatalog/dramsasms/videorams/Intro-8260.htm
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Hello Ronin
It is precisely Multiport DRAM, and it is this VRAM that differs from other X-DRAMs.
I can already imagine the prices... :v2_scare:
Hello Costa
Cos> Chips with such an organization probably won’t work either
Cos> since you need to type 16 bits there and 1MX4bit X 4 chip is already 2MB.
Yes, of course there will be four of 256Kx4
Hello, CHRV
Many thanks to Koen van Hartingsveldt from SunRise for the design information
v9990 and recommendations with information on VRAM.
Things are moving quietly. ;)
Well, the MT42C4256 memory has arrived.
File: VRAM.jpg http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=2022
Hello, CHRV
CHR> MT42C4256
What is the price of these chips for 4 pieces?
Hello Costa
Cos> What is the price of these chips for 4 pieces?
Price - $3/piece, if there is a series then of course they will be cheaper, I took only 20 pieces for
experiments (to five v9990).
Hello, CHRV
2 Costa
Portraits of the Yamaha card are already there -
http://sblive.narod.ru/ZX-Spectrum/V9990/V9990.htm
Hello fan
2 Fan:Thank you! Already downloaded. ;)
Hello Costa
Cos> Is it possible to translate games and programs with little effort
Cos> written for GFX9000 for MSX for ZX and our version of the card?
Cos> The percentage is the same Z80, which means the code and procedures for working with the card will be
Cos> are the same, the maximum that can be only access ports will be
Cos> the work of programs with main memory (pages) also differs.
That's what I'm counting on!
We'll probably get a lot of good games.
Hello, CHRV
Sorry for the question, of course... :confused: But real progress in hardware is already
is there?
Hello, Ne01eX
Ne0> Sorry for the question, of course... :confused: But real progress in
Already have Ne0> hardware?
What does this mean?
There is no prototype and there won’t be one in the near future.
My work is going according to a strict plan and now I have a ZX->VGA plan.
So, I made TurboFM outside of the plan, but unfortunately the software developers can’t do anything yet
to do with it (in particular, LVD is now trying to deal with it).
So you’ll have to be patient - I’m alone and I only have two hands :).
Perhaps Ronin will work on it earlier, but we'll see!
Hello Mike
Mik> I apologize for being off-topic, but is TurboFM already ready? What is he
Mik> is, is this not turbo sound+FM? It is already possible
Mik> buy ?
http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=1442&page=1&pp=10
Hello, CHRV
CHR> What does this mean?
CHR> There is no prototype and there won’t be one in the near future.
CHR> My work is going according to a strict plan and now it’s according to plan
CHR> ZX->VGA.
CHR> So, I made TurboFM out of plan, but unfortunately the software developers haven’t yet
CHR> can do anything with it (in particular, LVD is now trying to do it
CHR> engage).
CHR> So you'll have to be patient - I'm alone and I only have two hands :).
CHR> Perhaps Ronin will start earlier, but we'll see!
I apologize for being off-topic, but is TurboFM already ready? And what does he represent?
yourself, is this not turbo sound + FM? Is it already possible to buy it?
Hello, CHRV
I'm in hardware ZERO. But it was high time to do this. And the memory from S3 trio, etc.
can't be used? or from which video devices? There is a mountain of burnt things. And not only
me.
Hello, Witch Doctor
> I am in ZERO hardware. But it was high time to do this. And the memory from S3 trio
> etc. cannot be used? or from which video devices? There is a mountain of burnt things. And
> not only for me.
You can't - v9990 uses dual-port DRAM.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Not possible - v9990 uses dual-port DRAM.
Is it already that cheap?
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Gentlemen, read the entire topic! I won't repeat myself! ;)
CHR> The price was written above!
Guilty. :v2_blush:
CHRV, where did you get them for $3 apiece?
Hello icebear
ice> Is it already so cheap?
Gentlemen, read the entire topic! I won't repeat myself! ;)
The price was written above!
Hello icebear
ice> Guilty. :v2_blush:
ice>
ice> CHRV, where did you get them for $3 apiece?
Same place as YM
Hello Costa
Cos> Of course, I’m not CHRV, but I want to speak from myself.
Cos> Why exotic?
Cos> Firstly, the V9990 itself definitely cannot be torn out of nowhere.
Cos> And secondly, it will be possible to order both the chipset itself and memory from Roma.
Cos> The main thing would be the desire that he would use these chips in whole cars
Cos> will supply! :)
Exactly.
And the “general public” should not click on one place but monitor different markets, well
for example http://www.hkinventory.com....
I’m warning you, the Chinese will screw you without a shadow of a doubt!
Hello icebear
Well, wait a minute, but the SG ram (on all sorts of Radeons, etc. is so square, the legs are
4 sides) doesn’t roll either?
Hello Costa
V-yes... Our homeland is fucked :(
Then a question for CHRV: aren’t you into exotics, my friend?
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Same as YM
That is This matter is not available to the general public. It's a pity.
Hello, Witch Doctor
> well wait, but SG ram (on all sorts of radeons, etc. is square
> like this, legs on 4 sides) doesn’t roll either?
No, no, of course it won’t work either, especially DDR =)
In principle, you can tear apart the shogi (2 pieces =)). There is the right type of memory there
used.
but then you will only have 128Kb instead of 512Kb.
Hello, Witch Doctor
> Then a question for CHRV: aren’t you into exotics, my friend?
Of course, I’m not CHRV, but I want to speak from myself.
Why exotic?
Firstly, the V9990 itself definitely cannot be torn out of nowhere.
And secondly, it will be possible to order both the chipset itself and memory from Roma.
The main thing would be the desire that he would give us these chips even as whole cars
supply! :)
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Definitely, and also process it by throwing out unnecessary Kanji and adding
CHR> of various Cyrillic characters (italics, thickened...). ;)
There’s no need to throw it away, otherwise we’ll get incompatibilities again and so on.
but you can probably add some empty spaces there.
I wonder if there is any information on address standards for the location of various encodings?
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Leave the Latin alphabet, but I honestly don’t see the need for Kanji :)
Then we will fit into one RF2 because the main part of the kanji is there: v2_laugh:
Hello Costa
Cos> There is no need to throw it away, otherwise we will again get incompatibilities and so on
Cos> but you can probably add some empty spaces there.
Cos> I wonder if there is information on the standards for the location of various addresses
Cos> encodings?
Leave the Latin alphabet, but I honestly don’t see the need for Kanji :)
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Leave the Latin alphabet, but I honestly don’t see the need for Kanji :)
No, let me! How can someone married to a Japanese woman and studying this language not remain silent?
I can! Nakerebanarimasen!
:smile:
Hello, CHRV
CHR> But she doesn’t use ATM, so we focus on domestic ones
CHR> user!
Well, what if some programs and games used kanja?
and when converting, it’s better to have hieroglyphs than nothing.
Hello, Maksagor
Seriously, Maksagor?
Hello, Witch Doctor
> Seriously, Maksagor?
I can't leave this place! Let my ATM burn out if I'm lying! :)
Roman will confirm...
Hello, Maksagor
> I can’t leave this place! Let my ATM burn out if I'm lying! :)
> Roman will confirm...
In kind!
But she doesn’t use ATM, so we are targeting domestic users!
Hello Costa
For me, it’s like hieroglyphs or nothing at all - just crap :)
And finally - the main thing is that the sprites are in charge, and the font is needed!;)
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> font - why the hell is it needed!
I completely agree. I like this garden.
Where did you see the ROM for the font on the MSX card? How to have a set of slop
fonts, when you can download what you like best at any time...
Hello fan
fan> I completely agree. I love this garden.
To the garden, so to the garden.
fan> Where did you see the ROM for the font on the MSX card? Which set to have
fan> suck fonts when you can download what you want at any time
fan> I like it better...
Well, in principle, you’re right. I agree.
Hello, CHRV
I’m wondering here, how will this device communicate with Specom?
Connect via system connector to reduce rework of standard
Speccy, and to this accelerator similar to GS will be sent in advance
sets of controls and then only managing them, did I understand correctly?
Hello, Dima_ZX
Dim> I’m wondering how this device communicates with Specom
Dim> will it be? Connect via system connector to reduce rework
Dim> standard Speccy, but this accelerator will be similar to the GS
Dim> send sets of controls in advance and then only manage them
Dim> did I understand correctly?
Yes, you understood everything correctly.
There is no need to do any modifications in the specs. Connection via slot.
The device works with its own memory up to 512Kb. (see datasheet)
Hello Costa
Cos> There is no need to throw it away, otherwise we will again get incompatibilities and so on
Cos> but you can probably add some empty spaces there.
Cos> I wonder if there is information on the standards for the location of various addresses
Cos> encodings?
Why throw it away or change it, you can install SRAM when loading
initialize, you need to run the ported programs, please load
standard firmware, other symbols are required, we will load others and so on, that’s all
fonts will be tailored to a specific task
Hello, Dima_ZX
Dim> Why throw it away or change it, you can install SRAM too
Dim> initialize loading, you need to launch ported programs
Dim> please download standard firmware, other characters are required
Dim> we load others and so on, all fonts will be for a specific task
I think in order not to complicate the device, you can do without it altogether.
And IMHO there is no point in installing SRAM, especially since the 9990 does not support
commands are written to KANJI even if it is in the form of RAM, and it probably made sense if
write some simple programs in BASIC or something like that
loaders and so as not to overload them with your fonts, use built-in ones.
This way you can load any of your fonts into main memory.
Hello, Dima_ZX
Roma, what's new?;)
Hello Surfin' Bird
Sur> Roma, what's new?;)
Nothing yet! I'm dealing with routine, I'm currently repairing a scorpion and already one
turbo 2 repaired...
I’m preparing a Turbo for Shiru (I’ll give it away for a while), I’m trying out the Tasis installation and
I edit Max's document so that users can understand it.
Unfortunately, there are only two hands :(.
Hello, Dima_ZX
Will it be possible to connect an SVGA monitor <---> v9990 without any problems?
As I understand it, the horizontal and vertical frequencies are
within acceptable limits for modern monitors.
For modes P1, P2, B1 - B4 (with NTSC mode enabled)
V=60Hz H=15.7KHz
For modes B5, B6
V=60Hz H=25.3KHz
V=60Hz H=31.5KHz
Hello icebear
ice> You did not understand me (for the umpteenth time). I'm talking about this
ice>
ice> For modes P1, P2, B1 - B4 (with NTSC mode enabled)
ice> V=60Hz H=15.7KHz
ice>
ice> doubted.
Be more specific, because my answer corresponded to the question, and communicate in
I don’t know how to read thoughts yet at the mental level (i.e. :).
Hello icebear
ice> What, do modern running monitors keep lowercase < 31KHz? Show
ice> give them to me.
Keep 31.5 (mode B6) - pay more attention please!
Hello Valen
Val> Will it be possible to connect an SVGA monitor <---> v9990 without any problems?
Val> As I understand it, the horizontal and vertical frequencies are located
Val> is within acceptable limits for modern monitors.
Val>
Val> For modes P1, P2, B1 - B4 (with NTSC mode enabled)
Val> V=60Hz H=15.7KHz
Val>
Val> For modes B5, B6
Val> V=60Hz H=25.3KHz
Val> V=60Hz H=31.5KHz
Yes, it’s possible, but then you need to provide a separate synchronization output...
True, I don’t plan to support such modes because, after all, development is not progressing
for VGA.
Hello icebear
A little offtopic. Does anyone know a link to VGA signal standards (frequencies,
duration of damping pulses, signal levels)?
Hello spensor
spe> A little offtopic. Does anyone know a link to VGA signal standards (frequencies,
spe> duration of damping pulses, signal levels)?
Of course :) For example http://www.epanorama.net/documents/pc/vga_timing.html
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Hold 31.5 (mode B6) - pay more attention please!
You didn't understand me (once again). I'm talking about this
For modes P1, P2, B1 - B4 (with NTSC mode enabled)
V=60Hz H=15.7KHz
I doubted it.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Yes, it’s possible, but then you need to provide a separate output
CHR> synchronization...
CHR> True, I don’t plan to support such modes because it’s still development
CHR> is not for VGA.
But what, modern running monitors keep lowercase < 31KHz? Show them to me.
Hello, CHRV
How would you like to call the V9990 chip nothing less than a “far away chip”? Heard
This definition is from Dima Bystrov. Just kidding. :) :smile:
Hello, Maksagor
Dima probably had nothing to do with either 9938 or 9958 :) . Otherwise he would have
called it the nineties.
Hello, TmK
TmK> I watched the demos on a TFT TV (Pentagon128+PalCoderNedoPC)
TmK> Half of the effects in demos (stellar, eyeache and others
TmK> multicolor) looks either like garbage on the screen or nothing at all
TmK> doesn't look like it! (in stellar there is a tunnel effect in the background of the picture - you can see
TmK> image only)
TmK> So whether we like it or not, we will see the real screen on the old monitor
TmK> (IMHO)
Yes, multicolors are definitely dying and nothing can be done about it :).
Hello, lvd
lvd> Summary - there is no one-frame on LSD.
unless you eat it
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Yes, multicolors are definitely dying and nothing can be done about it :).
But as I understand it, if you watch multicolors through the still unfinished
SVGA converter (when it is ready, of course), then there will be multicolor
work? After all, there is a storage of information about these colors in the buffer when passing through
beam. Isn't that right?
Hello fan
fan> I wonder how much the Yamaha V9958 costs? Maybe it's better for her
fan> switch . She has hardware vertical and
fan> horizontal(!) scrolls, and you can save on more pop memory
fan> (I think it’s quite possible to install SRAM instead of DRAM). And
fan> This is easier for amateurs to solder, the case is deep (you can use sockets
fan> use).
Costs $5.80 per batch of 20 pieces.
Hello icebear
ice> Where does the information about SRAM come from?
This is only if the bus can be demultiplexed without problems.
And I don’t think that DRAM will be difficult to get.
Hello Ronin
Ron> maybe it’s easier 9958+sram instead of 9990+cunning_and_expensive dual-port
Ron> memory ?
Definitely better!!! And almost anyone who can solder something like this can
holding a soldering iron in his hands! Not to mention the fact that it’s not a pity for perversions
throw away one and a half hundred.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Costs $5.80 in batches of 20 pcs.
Gaspada fellow spektrumists!!! This is already a topic!!! Almost smash the amount
four times less (than it could be) for perversions is no longer so bad!!!
The price is almost the same as that of a pop music sopra!!!
Who will say what??? (in light of the topic, if I may say so)
Unfortunately, I don’t know any games on MSX where you can look at horizontal scrolling
backdrop, but those flying shooters with vertical scrolling V9938 are just
awesome (not to mention the cartoons on the screensavers ;) ).
From the arguments for the Yamaha V9958 - it is much more realistic to push it into the matrix (on
I already gave V9938 cheese curds), and you will need a cheaper matrix than for V9990,
not to mention expensive external memory (which won’t be needed for
V9958).
V9958 can be torn out of motherfuckers along with their brains :D and the brains themselves are not a problem.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Costs $5.80 in batches of 20 pieces
so maybe it’s easier to use 9958+sram instead of 9990+cunning_and_expensive dual-port memory?
Hello Ronin
Ron> maybe it’s easier 9958+sram instead of 9990+cunning_and_expensive dual-port
Ron> memory ?
Where does the information about SRAM come from?
Hello icebear
It’s not interesting to somehow attach older and worse parameters
chips. I think we should take the maximum possible option and the last one
line 9990 is this option. Guys, is it really all about
in money. By and large, this is a hobby and the price should fade into the background. A
stuffing such chips into matrices, I don’t know, smells like some kind of rubber. For me
large chips like Zetnik, AUK, Vegeshka, etc. must be real and
Only stuff all sorts of loose stuff into the matrix. That’s all IMHO.
Hello fan
fan> This is only if the bus can be demultiplexed without problems.
fan> And I don’t think that DRAM will be difficult to get.
Well, let’s say all this :) I’m more interested in the question of how it will be physically
output to the screen from standard video memory and Yamaha video memory is organized, in
in the sense that there will be one connector or two, etc.
Hello fan
fan> Who else thinks so, raise your hands: v2_lol; :v2_lol:; :v2_lol;
I; I think so. For me personally, my hobby does not depend on money (within reasonable
limits of course). However, I fully understand and support CHRV because
he needs to think about sales. But in general, if you allow me to compare, Count. card (be
it is on V9990 or the bald devil) is a more profitable product than ATM. In return
Lastly, everyone already has a Spectrum, but no one has a card.
Hello fan
fan> The question is not about money, you can even buy a box of ATMs, but junk
fan> replace it with the same beer/put it on the shelf/throw it away and don’t bother with it
fan> exotic, not supported by anything or anyone.
Why do I need an ATM? How will he replace my tangle of wires called the Pentagon?
What difference will there be between an ATM with a “card” and a Pentagon with the same “card”?
Regarding the final price of the device, everything is correct. There are a couple more points
(such as production facilities, etc.) but this is off-topic and has nothing to do with the matter
has.
Hello, CHRV
Sonic under V9958, quite nice
:)http://personales.mundivia.es/mpazos/sonyc/Sonyc%20Homepage.html
The name is interesting ;)
Hello Costa
ice> I am more interested in the question of how the output will be physically organized
ice> to the screen from standard video memory and Yamaha video memory, in that sense
ice> that there will be one connector or two, etc.
One thing, of course, at the beginning they wrote about the video selector (although for perversions you can
make two ;) ).
Cos> Guys, is it really all down to it
Cos> into money.
Who else thinks so, raise your hands :v2_lol; :v2_lol:; :v2_lol;
Case; not so much in price, but in throwing away money on a device that no one
doesn’t want to buy it because it’s expensive and they don’t want it because it’s expensive
buy and support others %))))) And this snowball especially rolls into
regarding V9990 because in any case, it turns out that you will have to buy it (for those who do not
will be able to solder it) assembled for far from twenty bucks.
And in the end it turns out that it all comes down to the question - how much do you want?
throw away money if you don't care ;)
However, this question is closed for me, CHRV knows people better than anyone else
can’t stomach the slightest increase in prices for what can be exchanged for a bottle of beer
. And if it weren’t a question of money, then everyone would get ATMs and not suffer
would be a question - how to get a liter of condensed milk from a dried fly...Cos> But stuffing such chips into matrices, I don’t know, smells kinda
Cos> rubber.
This is not about stuffing as such, but about cloning in general, so that there is no
all sorts of talk - the deposits of your chip will run out and the end will come
to your standard.
However, using a matrix will allow you to completely get rid of the video selector
(if you shoot direct digital RGBYS signals).
Hello icebear
ice> Instead of the latter, everyone already has a Spectrum, but no one has a card
ice> whom.
If the question is not about money, then you can buy at least a box of ATMs, and replace the old ones with
the same beer/put it on the shelf/throw it away and don’t bother with exotics, anything or anyone
not supported.
Whatever one may say, in a global sense the question is precisely money, the more people there are
will be able to buy it (Turbo Video) at the most suitable price (i.e., as much as possible
cheaper :D), the larger the army of at least some developers will be, well
at least some club of interest will be formed in which gradually
the rest will catch up (because the thing is cool and poppy in connection! in
differences from other simply poor labels against this background). Yes, and give one like this
It won't be so expensive for a maniac programmer (especially if
there will be a lot of them ;) ).
Hello icebear
ice> Where does the information about SRAM come from?
ugh damn it, it worked. I confused this with ygv629.
So if 9958 is worse than 9990 - what kind of provocative proposals are these :)?
The party rate is 9990! ;) and there are no matrices here, you understand :)
Hello Costa
Cos> 2CHRV: At what stage of development?
Ask Vitka Ronin, I’m currently overloaded with other work.
play around...
By the way, in two months, Turbo 2+ will no longer be sold as a set, only
designer and boards.
Hello icebear
ice> Why do I need an ATM? How will it replace my tangle of wires called
ice> Pentagon? What will be the difference between an ATM with a "card" and a Pentagon with
ice> with the same “card”?
Forget it, this was just an abstract example of a ready-made solution. Instead of ATM you can
substitute the same pentagon with color on the point, it doesn’t matter.
Cos> And so you know, you can also assemble on which thread 9918-9928, for sure
Cos> will cost even less or even be a pretty penny
Cos> video processor
Cos> find and what's the point? For example, I just won't be interested anymore. I don't even
Cos> 100 rubles
Cos> I don’t want to give it up for it.
Well, these are already extremes, V9958 is a completely normal replacement for V9990, otherwise there’s nothing to talk about
it would be to say .
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Ask Vitka Ronin
uh. OK. let's start with... ;)
CHR> loaded with other works
similar :(
Hello, CHRV
CHR> By the way, in two months, Turbo 2+ will no longer be sold as a complete set,
CHR> constructor and boards only.
It should have been like this a long time ago. For a separate amount you can collect to order.
Hello icebear
Whoever needs it will buy it, but I think it’s incorrect to compare with ATM since there are alternatives
There’s simply no such card and it’s simply not possible to exchange it for a bottle. Yes, and not
I think that if you reduce the current price for ATM by 2 times, sales will also increase
2 times, just whoever doesn’t need it doesn’t need it for any money.
And so you know, you can also assemble on which thread 9918-9928, for sure
it will cost even less or even a cheap video processor
find it and what's the point? For example, I simply won’t be interested anymore. I’ll even pay 100 rubles
I don’t want to give it up for it. I don’t like to waste money on cheap things and it will be
There is a constant feeling that again something is missing and again something is wrong because
It could have been done more coolly. In short, for me 9990 is optimal.
2CHRV: At what stage is development?
Hello Ronin
Ron> so if 9958 is worse than 9990 - what kind of provocative proposals are these
Ron> ?
V9938 is worse. 9958 is quite normal.
Ron> party course - at 9990! and there are no matrices here, you understand
Well, a couple of people will have this heavy piece of iron and that’s it, no development.
Ron> uh. OK. let's start with...
What ports does the piece of hardware use (at the moment)?
What is used as a video selector (if used)?
Hello fan
fan> Well, a couple of people will have this heavy piece of iron and that’s it, nothing
fan> development .
But this is an extremely incorrect statement!
Development does not depend on how many people have a piece of hardware, but how many people have access to it.
it works.
For example, if I, Alko and Shiru Otaku have this piece of hardware, then the development will still be
what will it be? And if fans of Pentagons have the hardware in the wires, then you can
hit it right away ;).
Hello icebear
ice> This should have happened a long time ago. For a separate amount you can collect to order.
No fees per order. Only if someone else picks up production.
I personally act according to the plan and it says that after two batches of boards
A new computer compatible with Turbo 2+ is being developed. Concept car by the way
wrote to Shir Otaku, I’m now thinking about what to throw out of there to make it cheaper
it turned out...
Nothing will be published until there is at least some kind of live demo.
will appear - don’t even ask, this is my principle.
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Alko and Shiru Otaku - there will still be some development
Well then we are all calm :)
Hello Ronin
Ron> the device is at the stage of concept development and general testing
Ron> performance. Therefore _for now_ ports are not important and there is no selector. A
Ron> why, I wanted to offer something :)
i.e. are you at the very beginning? what is meant by testing?
performance?
Hello fan
fan> Well, a couple of people will have this heavy piece of iron and that’s it, nothing
fan> development
We already have 9990 chips, but no one here has 9958 yet.
fan> What ports does the hardware use (at the moment)?
fan> What is used as a video selector (if used)?
The device is at the stage of concept development and general performance testing.
Therefore _for now_ ports are not important and there is no selector. Why, I wanted to offer something
:)
Hello Ronin
Ron> Why, I wanted to offer something
No, I'm just curious.
Hello icebear
In general, I'm waiting for what will happen.
Hello, falanger
During the special action, a partisan base was discovered. No one survived :D
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Yamaha V9990 Video Controller Programmer's Guide
Translation from English by Shiru, edited by Alone Code