Questions for ATM Turbo 2+ manufacturers
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Hello, All
2 Maxagor, CHRV:
Guys, how many computers/sets do you manage to sell in a year? Just
I wonder how willing people are to buy such computers now. And
Do young radio amateurs (schoolchildren,
students)? And what is the trend in the last two years?
Thank you in advance for your answers and don’t think that I’m counting money in someone else’s pocket,
just after visiting several Spectrum sites there was hope that
amateur radio and creativity in our country have not yet been completely destroyed
liberalism and globalization.
I myself spent my childhood in the Yamaha MSX-2 classes (although not Spectrum, but also
not a bad computer on the Z80 :-) ). And now, under the influence of another attack
out of nostalgia, a crazy idea arose to develop a complete analogue of the MSX-2 on
modern components, using FPGA and DSP (on one DSP make
video and audio processors). Set the native processor to 3.5 MHz. Construction
It will be very compact and easy to assemble at home.
The only sales method that seems to me is a kit for
self-assembled by radio amateurs. It can give a second life to old and
simple computers on the Z80, such as MSX and ZX-Spectrum. After all, children need something
study, don’t start with P4.
For example, the company MASTER KIT quite successfully sells various kits forRadio amateurs, maybe this idea will work with computers?
Hello, CHRV
CHR> At the request of potential buyers, I will soon remove the sales table.
CHR> For some reason people are embarrassed to see themselves in the table.
Are there any young people among them (schoolchildren, students)?
Hello fan
fan> By MSX-2
fan> DSP to the garden!!! Everything is in VHDL, except the chipset :D
fan>
WHERE IS IT? Please post the link. And what do you mean by chipset?
I can’t tell you anything about the cassette interface, I haven’t worked with it, but that’s it
You can see this in the BIOS.
Hello vav
Everything is here: http://www.nedopc.com/ATMZAK/zakatm710.php
At the request of potential buyers, I will soon remove the sales table. People
for some reason he is embarrassed to see himself in the table.
There are three kit options:
1) bare board, HL8
2) assembled board
3) designer for assembly (all necessary parts included)
Hello vav
By MSX-2
DSP to the garden!!! Everything is in VHDL, except the chipset :D
And by the way, here’s a quick question - on what port does “CASSETTE INTERFACE” sit and on
what bits are decrypted?
Hello vav
vav> Are there any young people among them (schoolchildren, students)?
Very few.
The modern direction of government politicians and the media are aimed at ensuring that young people
indulged in entertainment rather than scientific and technical creativity. :(
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Everything is here: [url]At the request of potential buyers, sales table
CHR> I'll remove it soon. For some reason people are embarrassed to see themselves in the table.
CHR>
At least leave the names of the cities. The computer is in great demand for
abroad. That's where they all are, the Sinclairists!
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Extremely little.
CHR> Modern direction of government. politicians and the media are aimed at
CHR> young people indulged in entertainment rather than science and technology
CHR> creativity. :(
What's true is true... :( Zombified Pepsi generation, shit factory...
uh, I can’t even call THIS stars, just puss.....mi. :mad:
Hello, CHRV
vav> Are there any young people among them (schoolchildren, students)?
CHR> Extremely little.
CHR> Modern direction of government. politicians and the media are aimed at
CHR> young people indulged in entertainment rather than science and technology
CHR> creativity.
Well, by and large, how can you attract them? Not even fully worked out
the problem of using a CD-ROM, not to mention other devices/systems (LAN,
Net). And this problem is both hardware and software. There are only a few people who are interested
people, but when the question comes to using such elementary (for others
platforms) things, then they have nothing to promise.
On the other hand, even if interested young people appear, it is not always
they have the opportunity to purchase a computer designer, that is, they also need
and the interest of the “sponsor” - the parent. About children with fancy mobile phones
there is no question, they are not familiar with the spirit of creativity.
Hello spensor
spensor
Why do you need a network at home? This is a gaming and educational computer, nothing more. Not
Go to the Internet with it. Here's to cram all the loose stuff like 155LH1 into a small one
PLISINA would be useful. The board looks very old-fashioned. And pay 3000
rubles for a gift to a child, most parents can probably now, if it
not some kind of drunks.
Hello megabyte
meg> But there are also normal young people who grew up on Spectrums/Amigas
meg> is friendly with a soldering iron and knows assembler :)
And there are even those who grew up without speccy and Amiga, but gradually come to them :-)
Hello vav
vav> fan
vav> Thanks for the links. I downloaded the sources, but since the sites are in Japanese, I can’t
vav> I understand which FPGA the VDP is being pushed into. It seemed to me that there was absolutely
vav> an expensive chip is used.
Is it necessary?
I now have live v9990. I plan to screw them to the spec.
Hello vav
vav>CHRV
vav> v9990 is still a little newer and not fully compatible with 9938/9958.I
vav> then, how accessible are they? Well, I managed to buy ten today
vav> pieces, and in a month they may no longer exist. What's the point in speculating them
vav> catch ? There is no software. :(
While they are in warehouses, you can get them in almost any
quantity, YM2149 is still available in huge quantities.
So for the rest there is no software either.
But since Alko is very interested in this device, and many will
It’s interesting to work with such an axel - there is hope. Well, again there will be an axel
not to the detriment of the old regimes!
Hello Mike
Mik> What's true is true... :( Zombified Pepsi generation
Mik> shit factory... uh, I can’t even call THIS stars,
Mik> only pez.....mi. :mad:
But there are also normal young people who grew up on Spectrums/Amigas, with
He is friendly with a soldering iron and knows assembler :)
Hello fan
fan
Thanks for the links. I downloaded the sources, but since the sites are in Japanese, I didn’t understand
what kind of FPGA is being pushed into the VDP. It seemed to me that there was a very expensive chip there
used.
Hello, CHRV
CHRV
v9990 is still a little newer and not fully compatible with 9938/9958. And then,
How accessible are they? Well, I managed to buy ten pieces today, and a month later
they may no longer exist. What's the point of attaching them to spec? There is no software. :(
Hello vav
vav> Why do you need a network at home? This is a gaming and educational computer, nothing more
vav> that. You can't go online with it.
Actually, I tried to voice the questions asked by “youth”. And for the most part
Why shouldn't the account be a network? NET no, but LAN is a popular thing, in recent times
years, and people are interested in this opportunity.
vav> And now they can probably pay 3,000 rubles for a gift to a child
vav> most parents.
They can, but the question is precisely that the desire of the “youth” is not enough here, it is necessary
also the “consent” of the parent. And not only children, but also parents are susceptible
"the modern direction of government policy and the media." In a word, the question is wrong
simple as it seems.
Hello vav
vav> What's the point of attaching them to the spec? There is no software :(.
CHR> So there is no software for the others either.
CHR> But since Alko is very interested in this device, and many
CHR> it will be interesting to work with such an axel - there is hope. Here we go again
CHR> there will be an axel not to the detriment of the old regimes!
Agreeing with CHRV, I will say that here we must be guided by one
principle. Which one? That’s how much screaming, drooling and grumbling there was at all times
they say that Speck has the wrong graphics and the sound is not the same and there is no screw and there is no product, etc., etc.
It’s a blessing that new pieces of hardware are appearing through joint efforts, look no further than TS and FM
and Multicard and watch and screw and even CD. why not a distant chip
V9990, what an interesting device and a lot of possibilities. And most importantly, what makes it different
it’s different from other solutions for improving graphics, so you don’t have to go into the computer and
what should I change because it still won’t work out radically as the circuit design
Everyone is different, and I’m generally silent about PLMs. But here it’s either in the slot or if
there is no such thing, just carefully wire it to the legs of the processor. Yes, and something can be done
do it in simple ways and then increase the graphic/color resolution and from
This is of little use because I can write a normal game for this at a processor speed of 3.5 MHzis fraught with terrible brakes, and unfortunately you won’t be able to do something similar to the V9990, and you won’t be able to
Why? But the principle is the same, you asked, so you get it, but what about the software? It’s all in ours
In any case, it certainly won’t appear in your hands without a piece of hardware. And
why are we worse than the same bourgeoisie, they also make all sorts of devices for spec and
the same MSX. In any case, it’s encouraging that all the niches are slowly being filled
which, for a number of reasons, were not offered by manufacturers of bygone times. And who
now except for us (the spektrumist community)? Wait until Uncle Zonov comes and
will he do everything for us? Mmm, unlikely...
Hello vav
vav> fan
vav> Thanks for the links. I downloaded the sources, but since the sites are in Japanese, I can’t
vav> I understand which FPGA the VDP is being pushed into. It seemed to me that there was absolutely
vav> an expensive chip is used.
This means that not everything has been downloaded, AlteraOR FLEX eroglephs are drawn on one page
10k30AQC240-3
In the v9938.acf files it is drawn -
CHIP v9938
BEGIN
FLEX_CONFIGURATION_EPROM = EPC2LC20;
DEVICE = EPF10K30AQC240-3;
However, if the source code is available, this is not critical.
You can try to translate through http://babelfish.altavista.com/, but
slow sites don’t want to be translated... The main thing is to change the log to translate, otherwise
It’s not clear at what stage the project stalled.
By the way, it also seems like some kind of VDP -
http://www.ohnaka.jp/wiki/wiki.cgi?page=%BB%F7%C8%F3VDP%A4%CE%A5%BD%A1%BC%A5%B9
%2F04%2D01%2D17
But the site is really comatose...
Hello megabyte
meg> But there are also normal young people who grew up on Spectrums/Amigas
meg> is friendly with a soldering iron and knows assembler :)
Luckily there is. :) But I’m not very good with Asm...