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14 May 2006
Hello, All
I invite you to take part in the creation and promotion of the handheld ZX.
For this purpose, the website zx-palm.narod.ru [http://www.zx-palm.narod.ru] was created, however
the forum will be located here :v2_cheer:, if allowed.
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15 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
+1
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Alexander Zan
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15 May 2006
Hello, rasmer
As always, it all comes down to the screen...
Damn the Nintendo DS for the sake of such forgetfulness, forgive me... Better emulator for DS
write (if it has not already been written).
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15 May 2006
Hello fan
As always, it all comes down to the screen...
Damn the Nintendo DS for the sake of such fun, forgive me... Better emulator for DS
write (if it has not already been written).
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Orionsoft
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15 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Cellular?
Sony Ericson
yes, with a touch screen, the resolution seems to be 320 by 256
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Orionsoft
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15 May 2006
Hello fan
what about the display from p900p910?
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TYAX
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15 May 2006
Hello Orionsoft
Ori> what about the display from p900p910?
Cell phone?
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TYAX
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15 May 2006
Hello fan
fan> As always, everything comes down to the screen...
fan> Beating up the Nintendo DS for the sake of such fun, forgive me... Better
fan> write an emulator for DS (if it has not already been written).
The coolest thing is that there are already enough screens from this console.
The price ranges from $45 to $60. What's worse is that the specification is hidden.
Let's wait for bourgeois crafts on these screens or look for an alternative to the price and...
256x192..
The rest is available in lower resolution. :v2_smoke:
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ASDT
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15 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
3k rubles (what I dug up)
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ASDT
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15 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
How will the issue with the screen be resolved...
And so, the topic is interesting :)
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Alexander Zan
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15 May 2006
Hello Orionsoft
TYA> Price ranges from $45 to $60. It's worse that the specification is hidden.
And in which offices are they sold and what eroglyphs are they called?
Ori> what about the display from p900p910?
A similar question is, in which offices are they sold and what eroglyphs are they called?
?
Who knows how much screens from S40 and S60 cost (and what varieties
happen)? In which offices are they sold?
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15 May 2006
Hello new art
new> Not serious.
new> Marriage in appearance usually differs well in their own ways.
new> We even have a terribly used GBA for less than $90.
new> Give a SPECIFIC example, that is, at least 1 company that I can join
new> Contact us today and buy this defective DS without any problems.
new> I was on Juno over the weekend and didn’t find a single DS there!!
Seriously.. it’s sitting there waiting for someone to buy it for $110*.. I want to take it myself
serviceable in order to decrypt the interface (this feature is completely dead
no). By the way, in online stores ("igruha" and some other similar ones) completely
a working one costs $159 (before that there was a discount, but..). Communicated with them via email
on the topic of illiquid assets and understaffed ones.
Yes, used ones will appear soon, due to the release of the lite version of the DS... over the hill. :frown;
If; If you take on decoding, I’ll give you the exact address and details. :v2_cheer;
*; - corrected the price
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15 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Almost all offices involved in the wholesale sale of Nintendo DS
TYA> and having defects in appearance. So, such a “marriage” costs $90-120,
TYA> and there are two screens!
Not serious.
Marriage in appearance usually goes well in their own ways.
We even have a terribly used GBA for less than $90.
Give a SPECIFIC example, that is, at least 1 company that I can join today
contact us and buy this defective DS without any problems.
I was on Juno over the weekend and didn’t find a single DS there!!
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15 May 2006
Hello fan
fan> And in which offices are they sold and what eroglyphs are they called?
Almost all offices involved in the wholesale sale of Nintendo DS
and having a defect in appearance. So, such a “marriage” costs $90-120,
and there are two screens! :v2_cheer:
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16 May 2006
Hello new art
new> I would just take it to play.
new> The Spectrum handheld is of interest only to hardware people.
new> For the rest, a full-fledged emulator will be enough, and for DS there is more
new> than you can really do.
I am the iron worker. There are even a couple of articles about improvement in
magazines of those years. Now the modern element base and resp. funds
design. There is little time, but you can allocate an hour and a half to two hours a day for
hobby.
The magazine "Radio" refused(?) to consider such a device (revision for
radio amateurs, i.e. storage oscilloscope, etc. quickly and with your own hands). On
all requests no answers. I’ll go to the editorial office myself and with a ready-made device.
True, I missed the moment of connecting hard drives and sidiroms to the Spectrum, but
so up to date with events. I sculpted and upgraded the local clone "Gamma" to 128mi + a bunch
improvements. I repaired a ZX with dead ULA ports... without replacing the chip. True, it was
for a long time.
Emulation on a handheld device is only of a disk drive... There are simply no such disk drives, but
have hard drives or cf..
To All; By the way,; maybe let's decide on ports and interfaces, especially
Winchester and SD-rom.
Which ones exist? What's the difference? Which ones are generally accepted?
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16 May 2006
Hello new art
In general, it’s strange that there is no choice in St. Petersburg...
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Vyacheslav Kalinin
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16 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> If you take on the decryption, I’ll give you the exact address and details.
I would just take it to play.
The Spectrum handheld is of interest only to hardware people.
For the rest, a full-fledged emulator will be enough, and for DS there is more of it
what can actually be done.
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16 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> True, I missed the moment of connecting hard drives and sidiroms to
TYA> Spectrum,
Yeah, nothing at all, the last 10 years...
How many people do you think are on this forum and in general over the last 5 years?
such Kulibins with the idea of a pocket spec?
And where are they all?
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16 May 2006
Hello new art
new> Yeah, nothing at all, the last 10 years...
new> How many people do you think are on this forum and in general over the last 5 years
new> were there such Kulibins with the idea of a pocket spec?
new> And where are they all?
No, the drive was connected much later... than 10 years. At least in wide
circles for sure. Although, there is nothing special in the scheme. Here is the software interfaced with
this, yes..
There are many projects. As far as I know, they are of little use for a wide range of people
or are expensive. Some were picked up from the fidosh echo and retired for further
attempts at sculpting.. or retreated.
I'm going to collect information (and, if possible, a diagram accessible to the general public)
applications) suitable for zx-palm builders. Let them get ahead, but at least something
the specific one will appear.
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16 May 2006
Hello new art
new> Yeah, nothing at all, the last 10 years...
new> How many people do you think are on this forum and in general over the last 5 years
new> was
new> such Kulibins with the idea of a pocket spec?
new> And where are they all?
I abandoned this idea because of the terrible cost of the subject - i.e. final price for
the user gets about $250 according to optimistic estimates...
That is It’s easier to write an emulator for whatever PDA.
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16 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Seriously.. lies there and waits until they buy it for $110*
Why are you suffering from it?
KTTs-MK warehouse
PVI PA035XSJ=PA035XUJ
TFT 3.5" 480x234 analog interfacing color CCFL 83.7x68.66x6.6mm M.opt. 52.5$
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16 May 2006
Hello, CHRV
I agree that, unfortunately, it is impossible to assemble PDA using home technologies,
this requires serious investments, technology and materials, and hence the price.
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17 May 2006
Hello Ronin
Ron> why are you suffering from it.
Ron>
Ron> KTTs-MK warehouse
Ron> PVI PA035XSJ=PA035XUJ
Ron> TFT 3.5" 480x234 analog interfacing color CCFL 83.7x68.66x6.6mm M.opt.
Ron> 52.5$
Plus board AC-PVI35-B..
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
"TFT 3.5" 480x234 "Yes, however, there are smaller ones...
But again the question is about the processor, if different, then
this turns out to be another topic - “making palm” :)
Paradox...
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17 May 2006
Hello new art
her> Deja vu!!!
new> How many people do you think are on this forum and in general over the last 5 years
new> was
new> such Kulibins with the idea of a pocket spec?
:v2_crazy;
I; I reminded once again that with large dimensions (chip housings, and in general
mounting on a board) is easier to operate and debug, even with small-scale
production, but the fact that there is a ton of ideas in the air is already clear.
CHR> It’s unlikely to be possible without plisse
Yeah, how to transfer it to the housing complex...
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17 May 2006
Hello Ronin
Ron> TFT 3.5" 480x234 analog interfacing color CCFL 83.7x68.66x6.6mm M.opt.
Ron> 52.5$
Gentlemen, explain to the stupid and unreasonable, does this thing support screen input?
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17 May 2006
Hello, DVS
DVS> Maybe the laptop will suit you? :-)
Deja vu!!! Spensor has already offered on the eZ80 processor only with 480x240 monochrome matrices
cheap and cheerful.
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17 May 2006
Hello Ronin
It seems to me that this is the ideal we should strive for:
Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100
Description:
Class: Linux PDA
Operating system: Qtopia 1.5.4 (Linux Kernel 2.4.20)
Processor: Intel XScale PXA270 416 MHz
RAM: 64 MB (62.1 MB available)
ROM; 91.14; MB available to user
HDD; 3.78; GB - total volume, 2.31 GB available
Interfaces: SD, IrDA, CF
Screen: TFT 3.7" with a resolution of 640x480 pixels, displays 65 thousand colors
Keyboard: QWERTY keyboard 56 keys plus four navigation buttons
Battery: Removable Li-Ion battery with a capacity of 1800 mAh
Dimensions: 128x87x24 mm
Weight: 298 g
Price: about 1000$
More details here: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/sharp-c3100.shtml
File: zaurus.jpg http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3219
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Let's argue about technology and investments.
TYA> The most expensive part is the screen, but... products with used screens. and
TYA> illiquid assets.
used and illiquid assets are not suitable for mass production.
TYA> Next comes technology. If the prototype is rolled out on a breadboard, then
TYA> there is every chance for small-scale production.. at least the board
TYA> wholesale is much cheaper than... units of the same board. A little cheaper
TYA> a board with large dimensions, but double-sided, i.e. possible
TYA> roll using the iron method, which is even cheaper.
Depending on what kind of devices you use, only QFP, TSOP,
BGA and for them an iron will not work. You need to order scarves right away.
TYA> The case and keyboard are also wholesale. Although, having such a board, the case
TYA> you can glue it yourself.
Homemade products are not suitable for the series; the compus will have to be ordered.
TYA> Processor wholesale according to price, i.e. by half an order of magnitude.
EEE wholesale starts from at least a thousand, or even tens of thousands.
TYA> Memory (soj, flash) is available in products. TYA> Minimum markup of the company on which we will entrust distribution
TYA> semi-finished and finished products. The calculation is simple.
Why, I didn’t even see the calculation estimates. Calculate - and I will indicate the weak ones
places.
Development is actually quite expensive. It’s hard to do without pls
it will work out. If you emulate on something, then it is better to immediately write an emulator on
serial PDA
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Plus board AC-PVI35-B..
Well, who cares. I don’t need this - I didn’t understand it, but I strongly suspect that
"analog interface" is precisely an analog interface (rgb). and the payment is so
TVs from PAL televisit. I wonder if you at least went to the manufacturer’s website
did you come in?
do_> Gentlemen, explain to the stupid and unreasonable, this thing is screen input
do_> supports
We look at the docks, ask KTC-MK and the PVI people themselves.
TYA> The most expensive part is the screen
We read to Him ;) what is most precious :)
TYA> i.e. you can roll it using the iron method, which is even cheaper
uh uh hmmmm. Are you sure it's CHEAPER?
TYA> Minimum markup of the company on which we will entrust distribution
TYA> semi-finished and finished products
ahhh. here it is. a mythical company that will blame everything and pay nothing yet
(minimal markup). there will be no company. if you want to do something, do it
myself
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17 May 2006
Hello, DVS
DVS> And not even a single emoticon...
DVS> Such technologies are available only to large mastodon corporations.
I thought it was clear that you can’t do it cheaply “on your knees”,
if a serial product with acceptable characteristics costs $1000.
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
car> It seems to me that this is the ideal that we should strive for:
car> Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100
And not even a single emoticon...
Such technologies are available only to large mastodon corporations.
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ASDT
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
So the screen can be smaller, there is less memory, without a screw...
And so... - you can make fun of 20k bucks.
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ASDT
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
“this is the ideal to which we need” I.e. tama - "let's develop a PDA"
and I agree - it's interesting and possible...
But I think it should be blamed on iXBT :)
For ZX it’s closer to optimal - mini TV+ mini ZX...
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17 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Another thing is that eZ can be changed to another
something like this?
File: photo5_init_start.jpg http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3221
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17 May 2006
Hello, DVS
DVS> Perhaps so, it all depends on the element base... Without FPGA for me
DVS> doesn't seem to work, maybe make two branches of one project "HDL
DVS> Hardware" ?
DVS> Again, aiming at the dimensions of the PDA!?!? Maybe a laptop will suit you? :-)
Wait, why two threads if the question is what it should be
ZX-PALM, i.e. Having decided what will be included in this product,
Let's decide on the element base. I have a slightly different idea about
prototyping and to begin with I use a minimum of FPGAs.
PS However, there is a paradox. Casting a body in a small wholesale batch is more expensive
manufacturing a milled case with subsequent grinding.. With boards
something similar.
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18 May 2006
Hello Ronin
Ron> well, who cares. I don’t need this - I haven’t looked into it, but I strongly suspect
Ron> "that analog interface" is precisely the analog interface (rgb). a
Ron> board - this is so that TVs from PAL can be televised. I wonder if you at least
Ron> did you visit the manufacturer’s website?
Immediately. Downloaded the document in .pdf. I looked to see what else they had.
Ron> we look at the docks, ask KTC-MK and the pvi-tsev themselves.
Ron> read to Him ;) what is most precious :)
They also have a sale section. :)
In general, who has seen these screens live and how much will the test screen cost, i.e. outside
opta screen.
Ron> uh uuuu hmmmm. Are you sure it's CHEAPER?
The prototype board will only be on the iron! Before this, on the breadboard, which was very cramped...
Ron> ahhh. here it is. a mythical company on which everything will be blamed and nothing else
Ron> will not pay (minimal markup). there will be no company. want
Ron> to do something - do it yourself.
There is one such company, but they still have a drawback; they only sell at
cashless..
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18 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Let's return to our sheep, or rather the IDE interface diagrams.
TYA> Post a link with a description and diagram.
TYA> The main thing where it was successfully applied and possible improvements, up to
TYA> PROM firmware.
http://www.nedopc.com/NEMOIDE/zaknemoide.php
I have the firmware for Kai, but write it in soap.
The controller is supported in ISDOS.
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18 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Finally, with a 2.5' screw... it's cheaper than CF and other flash!
This is very hard to believe.
CF is an industry standard.
low-volume media is absolutely not worth what we see in stores
photo products.
and OEM products are even cheaper.
In addition, there is a family of u-controllers for organizing the DOM (disk on module)
it can be integrated into a handheld device as a disk with, for example, .
and use a connector for the external drive, where everyone can put or 2"5
hdd or CF and adapter.
Well, this is all just my opinion, of course.
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18 May 2006
Hello Orionsoft
Ori> This is very hard to believe.
Ori> CF - industrial standard.
Ori> low-volume media is absolutely not worth what we see in
Ori> photographic stores.
Ori> and OEM products are even cheaper.
Ori> In addition, there is a family of u-controllers for organizing the DOM (disk on
Ori> module )
Ori> it can be integrated into a handheld device as a disk with, for example, .
Ori> and use a connector for the external drive, where everyone can put it
Ori> or 2"5 hdd or CF and adapter.
Ori> well, this is all just my opinion, of course.
Price and availability will solve all issues. While options are being developed and waiting
ordered boards, etc.
At the wholesale price of a small or test batch (copy) no one, not even a ZX supporter
won't give it up! :v2_finge:
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18 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
You can throw tomatoes at me...
The garbage will come out.... Now the handhelds are already going to die.
Smart device lines are improving day by day, it all comes down to the emulator
for a specific platform.
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19 May 2006
Hello hero
Guys, here’s a question - I didn’t understand on the basis of what hardware it will be implemented
Speccy? Again, dimensions, current consumption... To be honest, it’s ripening here
the idea to create a mini autonomous robot based on Spectrum 48k, something like
a vacuum cleaner on the tracks of my old friend. He is not good at programming and
asked for my help. And of course there are still many unresolved problems. That's how we are for now
that we haven’t found a computer board from which we will “dance” further... I wanted
would like to know the parameters of your hardware on the basis of which you are going to build
handheld One such board would be very useful for us: v2_conf2:
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19 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Partial port addressing.
TYA> Did this phenomenon take place in the classic ZX-Spectrum?
TYA> Full addressing is reserved for software compatibility.
TYA> If this is so, then you will have to introduce additional mikrukha (something
TYA> like a port detector). I have full port addressing!
The most severe case with the #FD port if you do not sculpt memory expansions above 128Kb
then A15=0 A1=0 is enough, well maybe there’s something else in the low 8 bits of the address that
I would like to resolve it, say, with the IDE controller
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19 May 2006
Hello Arc
the first tomato flew.
In fact, due to my work duties, sometimes I come across prototypes of smartphones, then
the last ones. the result is completely different areas of application, with
with their own pros and cons, so one cannot be replaced by the other. option a la
A "talking calculator" (communicator) is not an option.
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19 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> I was browsing the forum and came across a description of the Spectrum with the name NEXT.
You can read an exclusive interview with the developer of "Conan" in the forum archive.
There's more written there than all over the internet combined
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20 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Quote: Posted by TYAX
TYA> I was browsing the forum and came across a description of the Spectrum with the name NEXT.
TYA>
TYA>
TYA> I dug through the entire search on the site.. Where exactly is the interview?
The topic was called something like “Tell me about ZX-NEXT.” Only this is the section - kill,
I don't remember.
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20 May 2006
Hello icebear
ice> The topic was called something like “Tell me about ZX-NEXT.” Just this one
ice> section - for the life of me, I don’t remember.
I looked. Everything is clear.
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22 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> I’ll make a port map (based on the spectrum 128k book), post it on the website
TYA> maybe you can add something.
And there is a card with three ports, or does it mean all the gadgets, if so then in parallel
with the port map, you also need to create a decryption map for specific clones, so
how there are inconsistencies when using just one
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23 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Which clones should be compatible?
And this is an unsolvable problem, or perhaps go the route of emulators where you choose
configuration.
The only thing worth noting is that there is software tailored for specific
cars
According to timings, there is software for ZX Spectrum, Scorpion, Pentagon
By the way, this is a whole epic
According to clones, these are ATM, ATM2, Turbo+, Profi, Scorpion
TYA> What about additional memory and its free connection (any
TYA> pages to any section)?
This is for CHRV and there was something else similar in PROFI.
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23 May 2006
Hello hero
her> This is for CHRV and there was something similar in PROFI.
Turbo 2+ software is all here: http://atmturbo.nedopc.com/inf/books/nedopc/atm_hard.zip
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23 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> What about additional memory and its free connection (any
TYA> pages to any section)?
I would also like to add that if you realize this opportunity, then you need to do it and that’s it
video modes corresponding to the clone where such a memory manager is present
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24 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Partially solvable. By introducing a port access detector, but
TYA> there are a lot of liberties in the clones... I think I’ll stick with close ones
TYA> standards, at least regarding memory allocation.
Imagine what will happen to the detector if the program tries to determine
amount of memory :)
TYA> I meant the need for such feints with the ears..
If you make the Turobo2+ memory manager, then you need to make video modes,
otherwise (albeit a shame) you have to refuse. For Scorpio you need
implement SMUC and ProfPZU if you will work with IDE
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26 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> What should we do with the screen then? Nintendo DS with clear screen resolution
TYA> 256x192. There's not even room for border
Hak pocketpc PDA has an emul speckie, so it has 240*320 resolution and the screen is simple
Scrolling with hardware buttons. But, you can do 320*240%) So, simply,
as an option - scrolling for the border (personally, I have never seen it in the border,
no need)
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26 May 2006
Hello, acidrain
We’ve written a lot, but I still don’t see, at least the direction of the project...
I'm not even talking about the estimate, plan, technical requirements. ass....
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27 May 2006
Hello, CHRV
CHR> Of course not, there is also a very important one - for example, an electronic disk
CHR> VirtualTRDOS, iSDOS Classic Chick operating systems
,So, more details from the virtual TRDOS.. :v2_cool:
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27 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> , So, more details from the virtual TRDOS.. :v2_cool;
Read; here: http://atmturbo.nedopc.com/inf/books/nedopc/xbiosdoc.zip
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28 May 2006
Hello, CHRV
Hello. The idea of a spec-palm is great, but the idea of a spec-note is too late
15 years old: in the magazine "Science and Life" of the 90s, a laptop based on
z-80 with a monochrome display and a 1 MB screw.
But in essence, imxo, the idea can only be realized on velvet, by driving percent and
the entire periphery. if you do it in bulk, it will be like in jumble: //good watch,
speaking - only 2 suitcases of batteries are needed :)...
I just already did something similar - I attached a bw LCD from Leningrad 48
Soviet "palm" electronics. Unfortunately, it could only work from a car
battery. One percent consumes a lot, and the rest even more so.
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30 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
Is there a block diagram or some other thread of verbal description? What's the point here?
spread your thoughts if you don’t fully know what we’re talking about :)
And one more CPLD thread MAX3064 ($2-4) depending on the situation up to 20
Replaces small logic cases.
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30 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> .. and if someone patents, then there will be problems with application
Have you ever filed a patent (copyright certificate)? :)
The question is, for example, how to pair the eZ80 Z80 RAM ROM VRAM BaseIO, etc. This is not
it is emulated, this must be done in hardware. Let's say the eZ80 can also emulate a bus
Z80, which partly eliminates the problem of connecting two processors, but back to memory
you have to come up with something more or less clever, don’t force the eZ80
access memory at 50MHz in Z80 mode? Otherwise it’s 200% from the bush
productivity (and accordingly energy consumption) into the air
And are you going to create a video output using a process or is it just my imagination?
(misunderstood)
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30 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
"Why is there no such thing.. and if someone is patented" Hey :)
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ASDT
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
“He’ll take it, plow it over and say that I borrowed it from him.”
Extremely doubtful... They'd rather giggle...
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Problems only occur at full clock speed on the z80,
TYA> i.e. 20MZh. In the case of a standard or turbo clock there are no problems. I
TYA> I'm thinking about getting a vga output. Although, judging by the correctness of the scheme
TYA> you will need to attach a video controller
With a clock frequency of eZ80 = 50MHz and a standard pixel flow of 7MHz for the eZ80
for each pixel there are 7 sometimes 8 commands, this does not take into account what else PS/2 does
For example, scanning, processing calls to virtual ports, etc. will be difficult.
If you rely on ZX-NEXT, the circuit is designed in such a way that the machine cycles are
are already used as forming signals this time, secondly it is nothing else
Apart from outputting pictures, he doesn’t actually have time to do anything.
TYA> Ok, I’ll lift part of the veil. There is a controller (100 legs), which
TYA> becomes between two processors and... forms everything for the z80
TYA> necessary resources, including real and virtual ones
TYA> the latter a little later.
What is a 100 paw controller?
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Now I'm thinking of giving up the controller completely (fujitsu-simens).
And at what frequency was this thing supposed to be launched?
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> The algorithm can be viewed from the firmware disassembler or from the author
TYA> chat... if you're still in business.
Yes, it seems they still haven’t dismantled the firmware :)
TYA> Where does the 7MZh flow come from? According to estimates, it turns out 256x192x50..100 =
TYA> 2.457600..4.915200, border is processed separately
Yes, 7MHz is in the standard specs, I drove it, you don’t seem to need a border,
only here the eternal problem of jittering sprites, flickering, etc. arises. But her
It seems impossible to solve if at least one step away from the standard TV output
move away, but here again it depends if the LCD is with a digital interface, then partially
can be solved, but there will be problems with the software that uses 3Color and
the active screen is often swapped
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
I don’t understand a little... Is the video generated by the processor? :)
So LSD already has drivers and video memory...
You just need to convert the data from the CPU into LSD data...
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31 May 2006
Hello ASDT
ASD> You only need to convert the data from the CPU to LSD data...
They do not have analogue LCD
And for digital 5-6 legs GPIO and the entire controller
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
No, you just need to “design” a PDA and emulate ZX on it :(
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Let's see about the flicker (a shade corrector is definitely needed, but
TYA> if you pull it at the right moment, the flickering is perfect
What is this about? we are simply talking about the discrepancy between the int and the ray running across the screen,
the cunning software is designed with all sorts of delays so that something can be changed during the mileage of the beam,
for LCD (with digital) this results in constant updating of the picture
TYA> In relation to which screen..
That's for almost anyone with a 4-bit interface
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> This seems to be only an input/output interface.
What do you want to get from me? In general, I’m only for nomohorms if it’s for LCD
relate. I wouldn’t recommend a model because I was only related to
displays from mobile phones, by the way, the display from P900 is worth taking in the Arab Emirates
$35
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31 May 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> You need to design ZX in PALM, and emulate extensions. I think so.
What should we do with it next?
There is no keyboard, no stylus.
Play games, watch demos and read texts?
What's the point of extensions if there's no software for them? (games and demos)
The other day I came across the PenPad600 from Asmtrad, built on 3 Zilog processors,
interesting toy.
http://www.museo8bits.com/penpad600.htm
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1 June 2006
Hello new art
new> The other day I came across the PenPad600 from Asmtrad, built on 3
new> Zilog's processes, an interesting toy.
new> http://www.museo8bits.com/penpad600.htm
There is only one processor.
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1 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> As for the stylus, this is only the Nintendo screen that you can
TYA> use it through a coprocessor and build compatibility with mice
TYA> graphic pens, etc. Spectrum etc. standard
TYA> equipment.
Forget about the mouse, the spec's mouse gives a cursor offset for the software, but the software itself
draws the cursor wherever he wants
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13 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> :v2_conf2; Few; Moreover, I have not yet come across schemes for joint
TYA> using CD-ROM' and HDD. :v2_blink;
Nonsense; which one - the Turbo2+ uses both an SD and a hard drive on one cable, yes
and the Nam controller supports this perfectly (let’s remember CDWALK from
Vega). I don’t understand the difference between using only a hard drive and
scheme for using a hard drive and SD at the same time. Apparently we don’t know the hardware
completely.
All IDE devices have a controller directly on board, and communication with this
the device is at the level of writing commands to the IDE controller registers. Choice
device consists of writing a bit to a specific register.
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14 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> A breadboard for planar microcircuits is ready (there are simply no others, although it is possible
TYA> and start on the classics), there is a choice in memory chips. Appeared
TYA> it is possible to get rid of the decoder on the microcontroller, but
TYA> there is no information on ports and, as a result, their number, and most importantly
TYA> there is no way to collect statistics on access to ports
TYA> one or another operating mode. How much depends on the number of ports
TYA> will be real (including external) and virtual. If you lay down a reserve for
TYA> 128+128, this will increase the number of buildings by three, but it is doubtful
TYA> that 16+16 or 32+8 is enough. For complete decryption of a0-a15, 9 remains
TYA> pins, from which, for ease of manipulation, leave 8 pins and 1 on
TYA> topic of reading and writing to the port. Naturally, this is still a problem.
TYA> :v2_conf2; Difficult; embrace the immensity. Because of "their bicycles"
TYA> it is doubtful to use a flash drive with support for hard drives in pure form
TYA> view. There are still problems with the screens. Get attached toTYA> specific plisk means that in case of lack of supplies
TYA> microcircuits. By the way, a problem is brewing with the supply of Zilog chips..
TYA> the company was bought over..
Why so much writing, I would have said that ONLY the breadboard is ready.
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14 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> The schemes are similar. And if you recall my thought, which I developed in
TYA> previous message.. on the topic of internal and external ports.. let's say
TYA> internal hard drive CF or 2.5' and quite naturally an external CD.
TYA> If there are an abundance of ports, then you can write to both simultaneously
TYA> port. Add. the register is already on the external CD. Need to study again
TYA> standard circuits to minimize device modifications.
There are two options here, for example, make two IDE interfaces (and you can make
on the same ports, switch for example using one bit of which thread
system register), or make two interfaces with different ports (not very
a reasonable solution, but faster in operation).
The easiest way to minimize modifications is to use programmable matrices.
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14 June 2006
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TYA> Zilog.. the company was bought out..
yeah well :) who is it :)
and why suddenly, when a company is repurchased, problems with their supply begin?
microcircuits :D I’m not even talking about when they buy up not a company but only a silicon plant.
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14 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
Something is off topic... It seems to be a ZX-PDA topic... What about HDD? CDROM???
They'll go further than tractors and bulldozers... :)
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14 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> Are there 20 and 50MZh in the planar?
When was this Z80@50MHz in planar released?
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14 June 2006
Hello ASDT
ASD> Something is off topic... It seems to be a ZX-PDA topic... And already HDD? CDROM???
ASD> They'll go further than the tractors and bulldozers... :)
CF = IDE
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14 June 2006
Hello, TYAX
TYA> However, it seems to me that there will be problems in the next couple of years.
TYA> :v2_down;
Not; will be, since the Z80 was produced by all and sundry: Toshiba, ST, GoldStar...Ha
warehouses in China just have them :eek:
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14 June 2006
Hello icebear
ice> When was this Z80@50MHz released in planar?
Absolutely right, the maximum was always 20 MHz!
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6 October 2006
Hello, TYAX
GIGGGY!
As soon as the deadline, which he himself had set, came, it immediately disappeared...
Good idea ruined...
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31 October 2006
Hello mungo
mun> GYGYG!
mun> As soon as the deadline, which he himself had set, came, it immediately disappeared...
mun> Good idea ruined...
People who do something usually write about the results of the matter, and those who write plans -
he usually doesn't do anything :). So the result is natural.
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Hello, Black_Cat
Bla> Well, then why is this topic nailed down here?
I agree with the author.
Change the status of the topic from “important” to normal.
Everything is in the hands of the topic author. If you need it, we'll pin it again :)
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14 November 2006
Hello, Peter
And how is the project going? Is there anything that is already starting up little by little?
I am interested as a possible buyer of the device.
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1 December 2006
Hello, Peter
> Wow, write 100%. 1% is doubtful, even idle loads..
>
> So, will you write?
Elementarily, I calculate approximately the number of clock cycles between 2 interrupts, if more
a certain number, then I run which nop thread in the loop, otherwise I disable
interrupts and do HALT
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1 December 2006
Hello, Peter
> Show what assembly code looks like.
Well, it's complete, you're a fan of the Z80 processor, you're even in the rudimentary assembler
you don’t know the state?? There are 30 teams or even less.
> If we go further, then based on this we can determine which ones
> modes reduce performance by being tied to clock and
> counting useful and lost ticks depending on who pulls
> processor
Don't make things up
> Error on interrupt confirmation ~50, but IORQ can be subtracted.
So you have a big problem separating the INTA loop from the two-byte code
operations?
> All circuits for debugging processor devices are built precisely on this basis
> principle. In one, described in "ham radio", there is an opportunity
> step-by-step and cyclic debugging of devices on the Z80.
Yes, in every amateur radio magazine GDK published a diagram of a self-built computer
In the same place it was necessary to tell how to launch the steps for debugging step by step.
> In the future, you can install a multi-channel analyzer with a pair
> dozens of channels and pull at a good speed, enter data in
> Excel, analyze there too.Just like first we make a laboratory that would make NASA jealous and then with the help of 20t
We are starting to launch the equipment step by step :)
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1 December 2006
Hello, Peter
> Different codes, preferably all, at least types. Why double-byte
> and one-byte and two and three and fourX
Show me the 4 byte operation code, and for the 2 byte M1 OPERATION CODES generate
for EACH OPERATION CODE byte