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From Andrey Savichev To All 21 October 2006

Hello Ronin Muscovites! Contribute. You need to take a couple of microcircuits from a person in Moscow on the 27th October and forward to me, in St. Petersburg. Details in the correspondence.

From Andrey Savichev To All 23 October 2006

Hello andrews Answer my call!

From Chunin Roman To All 23 October 2006

Hello andrews and> Answer my call! Ask Vovka Vlodek, to be honest, I just don’t have time to run around centers and meet someone... If you brought it to my home, then it’s possible.

From Andrey Savichev To All 24 October 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> Ask... Wlodek he’s somehow embarrassed by little things... and of course it would be nice to go home, but I’m this person (from China) I don’t know...they only gave me his mobile phone and they seem to send it with him random opportunity... the reality is this...I haven’t received the information yet...chips are sent simply because it flies people to Moscow... will they send the information, I don’t know... but if they send me, I’ll have to agreement to buy a batch of 1000 pieces in bulk... essentially a pig in a poke... like this damn mining business

From Chunin Roman To All 24 October 2006

Hello andrews and> he’s somehow embarrassed by the little things... and going home would be good, of course, but I don’t and> I don’t know the person (from China...they only gave me his mobile phone and something like s and> they are sent by chance... and> the reality is this...I haven’t received the information yet...the chips are sent simply because and> that people are flying to Moscow... will they send the information, I don't know... but if they send it to me and> you will have to agree to buy a batch of 1000 pieces in bulk...essentially a cat and> in a bag...such a damn digging business Chel = Chinese? In general, it’s amazing how many Muscovites live in the center - who the hell responded :(. As for “you’ll have to buy”, it’s already steamed, the contract has not been concluded - let’s go to the garden.

From Andrey Savichev To All 24 October 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> Regarding “you will have to buy” this is already a problem, the contract has not been concluded - CHR> let's go to the garden. I can’t...I gave my word, and my word is stronger than a seal...besides, the price is reasonable and if what is promised is inside, you can get that money back in any case

From Chunin Roman To All 24 October 2006

Hello andrews and> I can’t...I gave my word, and my word is stronger than the seal...besides the price and> acceptable and if what is promised is inside, you can have this money and> repulse in any case EEE I don’t recommend it with the Chinese - they are a thing in themselves, they throw you at any convenient time case. Therefore, you need to be more cunning with them!

From Andrey Savichev To All 27 October 2006

Hello, CHRV Samples are already in Moscow. They need to be picked up in the coming days on Monday. vtk.srd. near the metro Botanical Garden in the area from 10 to 19 hours. and then transport it to me in St. Petersburg. I called Volodya and will call him again this evening (he hasn’t answered the phone yet). As a bonus for a volunteer assistant, a sample of our future division free :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 27 October 2006

Hello andrews I called Volodya. The ice has broken...sort of :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 31 October 2006

Hello andrews But the process could be sped up if someone is going from Moscow to Peter.

From Mike To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> Microcircuits in St. Petersburg :) drawing a test ISA board. Why ISA?

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> And where should I stick this thing? :v2_conf2; Cos>; In general, is it even done for spec? I join because, as practice shows, a closed project for spec - definitely a failure... And the information on chips is apparently closed!

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews Microcircuits in St. Petersburg :) drawing a test ISA board.

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello Mike Minimum costs. And then, somewhere you need 1000 pieces. attach. Where there is only PCI, mp3 can work like that.

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> draw a test ISA board. Mik> Why ISA? and> Minimum costs. And where should we stick this thing? :v2_conf2; At all; Is it even done for spec?

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> if there are 30 people willing to buy a new device and they have and> where to stick AY then why break the spears? I don’t understand why I should fence the garden again? Is it supposed to throw out the AUK and replace it with a designed board? Au-Turbo-FM is set up this way, but it is a logical continuation of AU and everything is clear here. And here, as I understand it, you need to do everything at once in a human way (normal ports, etc.) and on the BUS there are all the signals for this. For those who don’t have a BUS, we solder on the legs of the zetnik.

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello, The Exploited The> in which panel? Instead of AU

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> No, there's no need for that. There's already something to put in there (AU, AU-Turbo, AU-FM) As I understand it, the manufacturer analyzed the mass production of BUS and panels and came to a conclusion that suited him... Cos> Such a sound system and all other similar solutions should Cos> be developed for BUS, period. The manufacturer owes nothing to anyone! And period!

From Mikhail Andreev To All 2 November 2006

Hello, The Exploited The> in which panel? 40n apparently 40 LEGS.... :D Well, what is dip, I don’t think I need to tell you....

From Mark Antonov To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> is inserted into 40n. DIP socket in which panel?

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello, ewgeny7 I need arguments for and against...and some other statistics...if anyone is interested 30 people will buy a new device and they have somewhere to plug in AY, why? then break spears?

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV Goal: creating a new sound subsystem for Spectrum, mp3 decoder, 64-voice midi, 2-channel... stereo amplifier class AB 650 mW... coefficient. harmonics 0.6%...maximum module size 55x16 (inserted into a 40N DIP socket) Initial data: supplied in batches of min. 1000 pieces at a price of about $3 per piece. ( excluding customs clearance and VAT) Correct procedure: 1) complete documentation has been received, including the source code of the software in C. subject to non-disclosure conditions marked CONFIDENTIAL...2 samples were received pcs. 2) the resulting samples are tested in a random trial project to the fullest extent functionality and compliance with the stated technical characteristics 3) the printed circuit board of the product is manufactured and the manufacturer is selected according requirements of QFN32 PIN technology, pitch 0.5 mm 4) a prototype is tested and demonstrated to potential investors 5) investor(s) are selected...perhaps a bank for a loan of $10-15 thousand. 6) a batch of finished products ISA for PC is sold at a price of $20 per piece for settlements with creditors 7) the remaining 200 chips are ready for use in the ZX Spectrum

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> I join because, as practice shows, the project is closed for spec - CHR> definitely a failure... CHR> And the information on chips is apparently closed! The API will be open!

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> 1) mp3 can be played on PC starting from 486DX2/66; Bla> 2) the ISA bus existed on the PC up to P-III, i.e. for many years now Bla> is being released; Bla> 3) owners of outdated PCs will not invest in this computer (and Bla> this is reasonable :)) buying bells and whistles at a cost comparable to their price Bla> RS; Bla> 4) there is a typical picture of monster construction, so characteristic Bla> for the ZX scene, i.e. complete absence of any concept and Bla> ideology. I also have opponents in the electronics company where I currently work... Yes, the price is somewhat high...there are sound cards for 700 rubles with hardware mp3 decoder _on the pci bus_ ... although this was judged by the fact that the pentium200 mmx started to fly on din... and it puffs like that when gecrftim mp3 on a regular sound system and it hangs... maybe they plugged such a board into 486 (I remember before the stump appeared mothers with pci appeared) But these boards often crash. A couple of these dead guys are on my neighbor's table...and in my board can't breathe :) Next you need original software. On the one hand, this is bad because it is needed write. On the other hand, it’s good because this will be useful for the Spectrum version.Well, for now these are the arguments.

From Valery Tkachuck To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> my board has nothing to breathe Yes, this is not happiness, it’s just that no one needs an ISA now, there is no money for it you'll get it. Think about another implementation (PCI - do not suggest), like standalone player with a flash drive or something like that based on the capabilities device Look for application where there is a need for it, and don’t do it by screwing the fifth wheel to the cart (like I have it, so it’s urgent I need to screw it somewhere :)).

From Valery Tkachuck To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews and> 6) a batch of finished ISA products for PC is being sold at a price of $20 per and> piece for settlements with creditors and> 7) the remaining 200 chips are ready for use in the ZX Spectrum Don’t take this as criticism, but the concept is bullshit, which means there’s no money you'll get it. 1) mp3 can be played on PC starting from 486DX2/66; 2) the ISA bus existed on the PC up to P-III, i.e. haven't for many years released; 3) owners of outdated PCs will not invest in this computer (and this reasonable :)) buying bells and whistles at a cost comparable to the price of their RS; 4) there is a typical picture of monster construction, so characteristic of the ZX scenes, i.e. complete absence of any concept or ideology.

From Ewgeny Ivanoff To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> Such a sound system and all other similar solutions should Cos> be developed for BUS, period. Naturally. Moreover, not all boards have 40 holes for AY. Sometimes it's 28.

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> The manufacturer does not owe anyone anything! And period! Yeah, we're stewing in our own juice again.

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> Instead of AU No, there’s no need for that. There’s already something to put in there (AU, AU-Turbo, AU-FM) This sound system and all other similar solutions must be developed for BUS, period.

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> But this is not happiness, it’s just that no one needs an ISA now, money for it You won't get Bla>. Think about another implementation (PCI - not Bla> offer), such as a standalone player with a flash drive or something like that Bla> spirit based on the capabilities of the device. As far as I know, for example, the Amiga has an adapter for ISA... but I could be wrong. And also the Sprinter, but programming it is not so easy and in one place.

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> Hmm strange, I somehow thought that it was usually the manufacturer so as not to take risks Cos> studies the market and user opinions in vain. What if he does as he pleases Cos> it’s clear that this is a dead end. But in general, I don’t lecture anyone, but you please Cos> I express my opinion. Unfortunately, in the community, specks who express their opinions and buy devices - not the same people at all (I have already stepped on this rake and highly recommend others should take this into account). Cos> Otherwise we can get to the point where we’ll hang it on Tape in/out as well Cos> who has even more. Yes, for example HardTaper is made for this! Cos> I want there to be a STANDARD ON THE SPEC and that’s all! Oh, this is what I want, but alas, this is NO LONGER! You see, if Andrey produced some kind of computers (Sprinters or something else) - then he would naturally make a device if it were by this standard... But for example, in Kai there is nowhere to insert the board: 1 slot: IDE 2 slot: FDD Slot 3: AT Keyb but installing all sorts of "Christmas trees" is already a problem for the processor and crashes and even burns out everything in addition. This is such a sad picture. So I'm not blaming you, I'm just asking analyze a little further than the slogan “and that’s it”!

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> Yeah, we're stewing in our own juice again. Well, you just don’t risk anything by teaching the manufacturer, but he risks grandmas - that’s why he usually doesn’t listen to anyone but does it en masse, because he you know better! I would be happy to listen to your opinion if the number of sales of yours There were at least ten devices...

From Chunin Roman To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> And in this case, why is a 40-leg panel better? Cos> let's say the person already has an AU or Turbo-FM, what then is not a Christmas tree? Cos> Cos> And if you think like this, what if there is something missing here Cos> then let's push it through the cracks. This is not a solution. Cos> It’s better to immediately admit that the whole spec is to expand Cos> can no longer and will not happen. Cos> Everything is more than sad and even more. Cos> Cos> ps: ALL IMHO. Cos> pss: I'll go take a drink. I personally think that I should expand, and this requires a lot of new developments iron and complex and not just sound!

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews What about BUS? Where's PnP?

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> And in this case, why is a 40-leg panel better? Cos> let's say the person already has an AU or Turbo-FM, what then is not a Christmas tree? I honestly would start from 4 things: 1) Even the ancient Pentagon-128 had an AY panel... you can listen to mid-s on it; 2) this is how my predecessors already developed the sound system; 3) making a scarf this way is easier and cheaper; 4) maybe someone will leave it in this place for a long time :)

From Andrey Alexandrovich Titov To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> As far as I know, for example, the Amiga has an adapter for ISA... but I can CHR> be wrong. it doesn’t have it (at least the classic A600 and A1200)

From Valery Tkachuck To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> As far as I know, for example, the Amiga has an adapter for ISA... And also CHR> Sprinter No, then it’s better to focus on RS. 1000 Amig+Sprinters is nonsense. ZX God grant that there are three hundred reals in operation. :confused:

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> And for example, in Kai there is nowhere to insert the board: CHR> 1 slot: IDE CHR> 2nd slot: FDD CHR> 3rd slot: AT Keyb CHR> CHR> and installing all sorts of “Christmas trees” is already a problem and the processor costs cancer and crashes, and even CHR> and everything will burn in addition. In this case, why is a 40-leg panel better? Let’s say someone already has an AU or Turbo-FM, what then is not a Christmas tree? And if you think like this, what if there’s something missing here? Let's then push it through the cracks. This is not a solution. It’s better to immediately admit that the whole spec is expanding can't and won't happen anymore. Everything is more than sad and even more. ps: ALL IMHO. pss: I'll go take a drink.

From Alexander Yudin To All 2 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> Well, you just don’t risk anything by lecturing the manufacturer, but he CHR> risks money - that's why he usually doesn't listen to anyone but does it en masse CHR> because he knows best! Hmm strange, I somehow thought that it was usually the manufacturer so as not to take unnecessary risks studies the market and user opinions. And if he does what he knows best, then this It’s a dead end. In general, I don’t lecture anyone, I just express my opinion at will. Otherwise we can get to the point where we’ll hang it on Tape in/out because it’s even bigger who is there. I want there to be a STANDARD ON THE SPEC and that’s all! But it’s the same as always: it’s bad to remain silent, but you speak out like this..... And in general everything is IMHO.

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello Costa Cos> let's say the person already has an AU or Turbo-FM, what then is not a Christmas tree? SIM cards rather :) or cartridges...and old programs if they are written correctly without determining the presence of a supported system should not die...and new ones having encountered a new device, they must work with new capabilities

From Andrey Savichev To All 2 November 2006

Hello demon_zx Okay. Send information on this topic to at least the forum regulars. That is...1) if you have an iron Spectrum and it has AY, how is it installed answer options: x 1 - on the panel 2 - soldered 3 - together with the processor on one board and the second question is if you are using the emulator on a machine older than Pentium-II which bus device would you prefer? y 1-PCI 2-ISA Send your answers to my email...or to the forum in the form Full name (or Nickname) 1-x;2-y

From Dmitry Vasilievich Terentyev To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews I have an ancient Pentagon, so the “default” AUK is not installed, a small scarf is inserted into the processor socket.

From Witch Doctor To All 2 November 2006

Hello, andrews 1-x;1y

From ASDT To All 2 November 2006

Hello andrews 2CHRV: "I personally think that I should expand, and for this I need a bunch of new hardware developments and complex ones and not just sound!” Yes? And think... What, why, why and why... 2andrews I will speak for myself... In the coffin I saw this “secret” chip and designs with him...

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello ASDT ASD> 2andrews ASD> I’ll speak for myself... I saw this “secret” chip in the coffin and ASD> designs with it... For me personally, it is completely transparent, but I gave the merchant my word of honor:| not disclose information...the only output is a dll from the API...and on ZX variables and functions with detailed descriptions on the basis of which you can independently and consciously develop any software

From Chunin Roman To All 3 November 2006

Hello ASDT ASD> 2CHRV:"I personally think that I should expand, and for this you need a lot ASD> new hardware developments and complex ones and not just sound!" ASD> Yes? And think...What, why, why and why... Well, what did you mean by this - everything is in the trash and on the emulator... Another gravedigger ;). And in general, I do a lot FOR MY OWN PLEASURE and not for anyone. Do Spectrums and something for spec - not economically profitable, and generally not profitable.

From Chunin Roman To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> No, then it’s better to focus on the PC. 1000 Amig+Sprinters - Bla> nonsense. ZX reals in force, God grant that there be three hundred. Bla> :confused; Coming soon; the cost of a 233 MHz PC will be cheaper than the cost of this designed board. A Maybe they've already become cheaper. So it’s simply pointless to focus on them...

From Valery Tkachuck To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat CHR> Soon the cost of a 233 MHz PC will be cheaper than the cost of this project CHR> boards And I mean the same thing: Bla> 3) owners of outdated PCs will not invest in this computer (and Bla> this is reasonable) buying bells and whistles at a cost comparable to their price Bla> RS; But you can’t collect even hundreds of thousands of PCs, but you can’t collect thousands of Amigas in xUSSR. And therefore Bla> Think about another implementation (PCI - do not suggest), like Bla> standalone player with a flash drive or something like that based on Bla> device capabilities. Perhaps something like GS, with its own processor and memory but external, connected for example via Nemo LPT or Com.

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews But the above is for writing. For the Spectrum, the device should be as good as possible cheap and open for developers. Just to stimulate development platforms...I think that if people develop a taste for mp3...they will start playing more powerful processor...more memory...modern flash drives for which the protocol is open today... the same SD and miniSD

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Mainly targeting gamers. Namely _licensed games_. For standard This is difficult to do with cards, since the sound for them is standard. In my version, if a person wants to have full sound, he buys software in a box and a card in addition. If he plays a tyren game, all the cool sound disappears. With this approach, if it prevails, I can count on tens of thousands of orders.

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> Perhaps something like GS, with its own processor and memory, but external Bla> connected for example via Nemo LPT or Com. If you feel the strength to do this, the flag is in your hands. And I will do what I can do it based on my capabilities, time and money.

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> No question, but it will be a bit difficult to get it, to put it mildly Bla> credit. I have two microcircuits with full information about them in my hands, which means a board for a PC and you can make a board for ZX anyone... and when it’s done, then we’ll see.

From Valery Tkachuck To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews and> ..and when it’s done, then we’ll see. Why work for a trash heap? It is clear that not a single enterprise manager will sign up for a loan for internal cards for PC or Spec. Judging by the capabilities you described, the device can be used as a midi synthesizer + mp3. Midi is standardly controlled via Com (more precisely, a current loop), and mp3 can be loaded via Com is possible. Com is available on many, incl. retro computers. Of course Com is not compare with USB, but Com - this is justified, because external MIDI synthesizers via USB no one catches, and mp3 can be used as an addition to midi - for playback of digitized sounds (like Covox to AY on Spectrum). For implementation as an external device requires a single chip with Com on board and memory, well, ideally, you can plug in a flash drive with digitized sounds was used as permanent memory (like the WaveTable in Soundblaster). In such implementation concepts are much more likely to attract consumer interest in purchasing this device, and not so much for retrogamers, but for musicians as a standard midi device with additional opportunities reproduction of live digitization. Those. the main focus should be on musicians - their interest will determine whether the device will go into production, or what it can also be screwed to the Spectrum - this is already a side bonus for the ZX scene.

From Valery Tkachuck To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews and> And I will do what I can do, based on my capabilities and> time and money. No question, but it will be difficult to get a loan for this, to put it mildly.

From Mike To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> no one connects external MIDI synthesizers via USB, but MP3 can Bla> used as an addition to midi - for playback Bla> digitized sounds (like Covox to AY in Spectrum). For implementation in Bla> as an external device you need a single chip with Com on board and Bla> memory. In this concept of implementation there are much more chances for Bla> consumer interest in purchasing this device, and not Bla> as much for retrogamers as for musicians in quality Bla> standard midi device with additional. playback capabilities Bla> live digitization. Synthesizers via USB are very sticky, this is already the norm for modern devices. It's true how they work... But that's another question. If to do with midi, then precisely with midi, i.e. 5-pin connector with optocoupler isolation, and not COM as such.

From Valery Tkachuck To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews and> I can count on tens of thousands of orders. They will break any gadget for proprietary software and make an emulsion for Soundblaster. I doubt that this bastard can do anything that they can’t modern audio speakers. I also doubt that the manufacturers don’t understand this software, on whose investment they obviously rely. Mik> If you do it with midi, then with midi By and large, this is not the question; after all, there are adapters.

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews and scatter fragments of sound and melodies throughout the distribution kit of a couple of hundred megagrams no problems either

From Chunin Roman To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> Who will put a card inside the computer of suckers and at whose expense? What if Bla> the user will buy several games with such cards, and if free PCI Bla> no? I agree. It is unlikely that a game manufacturer will get hooked on the card, its other tasks are mass production and multi-platform (I mean consoles), he needs to interest the maximum number of players. This is the manufacturer professional studios or something similar may get hooked on the card (because it As a rule, the system is supplied as a package - and the cost of the equipment is smaller part of the system). And I doubt that the sound quality will be on a cheap chip, like mine SB Audigy still costs - because modern cheap onboard chips - a rare noise in sound.

From Dmitry Vasilievich Terentyev To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews Coachmen! You're driving!

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, CHRV CHR> Possible use - for example, voice output for all kinds CHR> ATM and other terminal devices. It's no secret there often CHR> weak platforms are used and therefore such a solution is quite possible CHR> interest. and without the appropriate amount of memory... while in writing, plug in the USB-Hub and USB Flash of 512 MB or 1-2 GB SD via an adapter does not represent it a lot of work...I have this manipulation on one of my home computers P200MMX cost 1500 rubles. Buying an old 6 GB broom is even cheaper. In the old Dosov noise there is no support for such a sound... but who bothers the small and start-up game maker firms to make remakes of games with sound support (not you can surprise with graphics - surprise with effects and a new plot)... similarly for Spectrum. All people are divided into three large categories: for some, smells are of paramount importance, for others, pictures, for third sounds. The former are still taking a break from computers, the latter will be most satisfied SPS3 and a fancy water-cooled stump... the third, of course, if with money, they will prefer sophisticated external audio speakers, amplifiers and acoustics... but if I don’t have enough money for all this... then a good-sounding computer will do :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> They will break any gadget for proprietary software and make an emulsion Bla> Soundblaster'e. how? Drivers for this thing are not expected for Windows :) descriptions there are no registers...how can you catch a black cat in a dark room?...by the way, the chip delivered strictly upon signing a specific contract, so it is excluded that Someone will make an ordinary audio speaker based on it and provide drivers for it

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> Who will put a card inside the computer of suckers and at whose expense? Nowadays there are a lot of skilled ones... and every sucker has one in mind... plug in PCI You don’t need much of a mind map, just like you don’t need to connect speakers... as for the sound quality, I I already mentioned...I’ll clarify when he’s alive... A little-known iron manufacturer will not be allowed near the ATMs at the cannon shot. Can be used in a talking toilet, but this requires special flat speakers...and this is definitely not for me :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> So what, call a service technician to install the game? Or yours Bla> will the company provide these services free of charge? It’s probably easy to write about this on the box in order to respect the rights consumer...the one who copied the game (software) illegally is a pirate and According to the laws of today, his interests can not be taken into account

From Andrey Savichev To All 3 November 2006

Hello, Black_Cat Bla> What if the user buys several games with such cards, and what if they are free Bla> No PCI? will give it away and simply replace it with a new one...How much does a licensed game cost? 1200-1500 rubles? Well, what does 250-300 rubles mean in this price? after all, if the bill goes to tens and hundreds of thousands of copies, then the cost production will drop to 120-180 rubles. per PCI card

From Valery Tkachuck To All 3 November 2006

Hello andrews Who will put a card inside the computer of suckers and at whose expense? And if the user will buy several games with such cards, but what if there are no free PCIs? I'm afraid for There are fewer such goals than for an external USB device - you can’t count on it. Yes and no this is the case - the sound card plays the role of protection, for this there are cheap keys - both on USB and LPT.

From Victor Ronin To All 8 December 2006

Hello andrews and> Still, GBC was chosen as the first guinea pig for A26. and> Today we really started working on a board in the format of a cartridge for a gameboy and> the board itself, its connector and A26 are drawn in pcad2002. I'll be there on Sunday and> choose a microcontroller and decide which flash to install with or without and> thereof. so well, you would have split, what is there in this A26, mp3, midi - everything is as promised ? :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 8 December 2006

Hello Mike Still, GBC was chosen as the first guinea pig for A26. Today work has really begun on a board in cartridge format for a gameboy :cool; drawn; in pcad2002 the board itself, its connector and A26. I'll choose on Sunday microcontroller and decide which flash to install or without.

From Andrey Savichev To All 8 December 2006

Hello Ronin Ron> yes, mp3, midi - everything as promised I'll believe it when I hear it CHR> forced to find or make a commercial project It’s just that the intermediary promised the Chinese that it would be installed in game consoles... and It’s easier to make a board (there’s a ton of information on gb cartridges) CHR> information on the chip is closed this is true according to the agreement with the supplier... so I will only give you the lib... but will you will THIS stop the musketeers?! :)

From Andrey Savichev To All 8 December 2006

Hello, The Exploited The> is it still possible to make a commercial project on the cylinder head? gbc or gba one horseradish compatible cartridges...if we talk about "Napoleonic plans" is to repeat the mp4 (gpp) cartridge for gba... but for some reason start

From Mark Antonov To All 8 December 2006

Hello, CHRV Is it still possible to make a commercial project using a cylinder head? pysy yulin is offtopic somehow gone

From Chunin Roman To All 8 December 2006

Hello Ronin Andrius is forced to find or make a commercial project, as far as I understand from his posts Personally, I am not interested in this project, because in my opinion, everything for The spec should be open-source and open-hardware. In the case of this chip, this is the condition not executed (information on the chip is closed).

From Chunin Roman To All 8 December 2006

Hello andrews and> Still, GBC was chosen as the first guinea pig for A26. and> Today we really started working on a board in the format of a cartridge for a gameboy and> :cool; drawn; in pcad2002 the board itself, its connector and A26. B and> Sunday I will choose a microcontroller and decide with which flash and> put or without it. Commerce rules :v2_wink2:

From Victor Ronin To All 9 December 2006

Hello andrews and> I'll believe it when I hear it so it’s their own development, or (shhh) ripped off from our famous northern ones hot guys :) Is there any kind of hardware interface, will spi fit like the vs100x?