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Vlad Semchenko
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
Tell me where I can find a normal datasheet specification on MMC (registers,
commands, modes) including v4.0.
Downloaded several files, including 1MB in size
(http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/MMC-System-Spec-v3.31-TOC.pdf), but in
There is nothing at all except the table of contents. It's kind of weird :(
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acidrain
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
spe> If you want, try to implement it yourself or contact people
spe> interested in this.
spe> The essence of the problem is that there are several Flash standards
spe> memory: CF, SD, MMC, USB and a number of others. And everyone who bought a flash drive
spe> of a certain type, he wants to “attach” it to the Spectrum. Most
spe> rational, IMHO, would be to focus on CF, because
spe> control method is a “hard drive”, and there are programs/developments for it.
spe> If you want something more exotic, then you will have to do everything
spe> with your own hands - desire alone is not enough.
Yes, that's right. But you can’t get hung up on it
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=) only on cf - finally go to the store, see what kind of cards they are
are sold in it. =) If there is demand, then there must be supply (c)
laws of economics.
I wouldn’t mind purchasing (making) such a device myself. flashed on the net somewhere
such things and I even have a sketch of the mms pinout (I think it’s on the website
Atmel even has sources and a scheme for working with MMS cards). need to be at home
screw around =)And you don’t have to limit yourself to just the Spectrum implementation, because there are others
platforms on which they would be used with pleasure ;). For example Amiga =)
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jdigreze
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
spe> Tell me where I can find a normal datasheet specification for MMC
spe> (registers, commands, modes) including v4.0.
spe> Downloaded several files, including 1MB in size
spe> (http://www.mmca.org/compliance/buy_spec/MMC-System-Spec-v3.31-TOC.pd
spe> f), but there is nothing at all in them except the table of contents. It's strange like this:(
Same bullshit. :(
Google "ProdManualSDCardv1.9.pdf" - this is the specification for the MMC from SanDisk,
there's a lot there ;)
Now I'm working on a gadget that uses MMC as a drive, but
not for spec... my job is like this...
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Kamil Karimov
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
spe> Tell me where I can find a normal datasheet specification for MMC
spe> (registers, commands, modes)...
Here is a good description (about 1.8 MB in size):
http://www.cybermem.com/pdf/r2_mmc1.pdf
Look for this file: "ProdManualMMCv5.2.pdf" - this is the MMC specification from the company
SanDisk. Weighs about 1 MB.
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Vlad Semchenko
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22 November 2005
Hello, acidrain
Big 10x jdigreze and caro.
aci> only on cf - finally go to the store, see what it is
aci> cards are sold there.
Four standards are presented in the same quantitative composition - CF, MMC, SD
and USB. MemoryStick and SmartMedia are represented to a lesser extent. So the reproaches
are not accepted. Each standard has its pros and cons and debate
pointless.
aci> there were similar things on the Internet somewhere and I even have a sketch
aci> mms pinouts (I think there are even source codes and diagram on the Atmel website
aci> for working with mms cards). you need to rummage through your screw
There is no one to understand this goodness like dirt :(
aci> And you don’t have to limit yourself to just the Spectrum implementation, because there are also
aci> other platforms on which they would be used with pleasure.
aci> For example Amiga
If Spectrum and Amiga had the same interfaces, it would make sense. And so
for the Amizhniki - Amiga, and for the Spectrumists - Spectrum.
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Vlad Semchenko
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22 November 2005
Hello, acidrain
aci> Cruel.
Why? If I don’t have an Amiga and can’t buy one (even though I really want to),
then why will I make the device and what will I test it on?
And life is actually a cruel thing. Okay, this is already a flame.
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acidrain
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
spe> And so for the Amizhniks - the Amiga, and for the Spectrumists - the Spectrum one.
Cruel. =)
I have added an attachment with the source and pdf. from someone who already figured it out =)
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acidrain
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22 November 2005
Hello spensor
spe> why? If I don't have an Amiga,
I have it and I will make this device specifically for it. Ok, in short
bikes for everyone =)
PS. Attachments were deleted - I posted it wrong :)
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Mike
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23 November 2005
Hello spensor
And who said that there are no card readers for the Amiga? To any store selling
laptops and accessories for them, go in and take the same PCMCIA CF-Reader. I
I personally took the first one I came across for $10 and it works great, I use the card
Kingston on 512Mb, formatted as FAT. It is very convenient to exchange data with
"pussy". The natural condition is: to have a PCMCIA connector, i.e. have A1200 or
perhaps the A600, but since the A1200 is, in my opinion, the most popular option, I think
there won't be any problems. One thing is bad: you can’t boot from CF. Actually from the Amiga
standard PCMCIA, and then it’s up to the drivers, I know for sure that there is firewood for
some network cards, for 3COM, some C-net. So it would be better to get busy
writing drivers for various modern (and not so modern) PCMCIA devices.
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Mike
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23 November 2005
Hello, acidrain
aci> But for MMS I have not seen =(.
PCMCIA exists, I saw it myself. The next question is whether it will work with
existing drivers for Amiga. Why MMC? You have a mountain of these
cards? :)
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acidrain
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23 November 2005
Hello Mike
Mik> Who said that there are no card readers for the Amiga?
But I haven’t seen it for MMS =(.
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acidrain
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24 November 2005
Hello Mike
Mik> The next question is whether it will work with existing drivers
Mik> on the Amiga. Why MMC? Do you have a mountain of these cards?
No, there is no firewood. There are more mms cards than tsf. =) PiSieMSiAiA is on the a600 and
a1200 is no secret. But there is 0 firewood for the pieces of iron. You need to purchase it too
write. The only problem is that on the Amiga I burned my BlizzardPPC axel...
But here’s the problem - pcmsia definitely won’t work on spec =)
Although PCMSIA is kind of the same IDE...