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Roman Borokhov
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11 July 2006
Hello, D-M
The monitor itself is powered by 12 V (instead of the “native” power supply, you can use
any stabilized at 12 V/1 A, even from the PC :)). Video signal (standard
composite) is fed to the 12th leg of the 15-pin connector on the back of the monitor (I
screwed the RCA socket). I remember that my video was output to a wire,
sticking out of the power supply stand (I gave it to someone because of the noise and
unstable startup :)).
Connector:
1, 2 - power supply, +12 V;
12 - video input;
3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11 - “general”.
So what exactly is the problem?
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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11 July 2006
Hello, All
I recently found a keyboard from my brother, but then I realized that it was a whole computer with
processor, buttons and all sorts of other bells and whistles. It came with two
monitor "Electronics MC6105.01" and power supply for the monitor.
Then I dug into all this for a long time, surfing the net in search of any information.
I only found the monitor diagram, but since I don’t understand it well, I decided to ask
those who are at fault in this.
And here is the monitor diagram
File: MC6105.rar http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3412
From
Orionsoft
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11 July 2006
Hello, D-M
give us pictures of the keyboard inside!!!
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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11 July 2006
Hello, D-M
By the way, I forgot to ask on the back above the round connector it says “BK” what is it
does that mean?
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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11 July 2006
Hello Orionsoft
2 m.d.
I connected it as you advised but on one monitor there is a green dot in the middle (it
monochrome) and on the other there is a bright white horizontal stripe (maybe its
creative activity I broke it :v2_down; :v2_down:; :v2_down; );
2 Orionsoft
I would post pictures but I don’t have a camera, but I can say that this is a parody of
ZX-Spectrum called "SYMBOL" of our Penza VEM plant
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Orionsoft
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12 July 2006
Hello, D-M
DM> "BC"
Household computer??
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Vlad Sotnikov
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Dmitry Kashirin
12 July 2006
Hello, Dmitry!
July 11, 2006 (it was 11:11 pm then)
Dmitry Kashirin in his letter to All wrote:
DK> By the way, I forgot to ask on the back above the round connector it says “BK”
DK> what does this mean?
Typically these monitors were used for BK0010 computers.
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From
Roman Borokhov
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12 July 2006
Hello, D-M
DM> I connect as you advised but on one monitor there is a green dot on
DM> in the middle (it is monochrome) and on the other there is a bright white horizontal
DM> strip (maybe I broke it with my creative activity)
Most likely the monitors have scanning problems. Your video source
(computer?) definitely gives it out? Have you tried connecting it to your TV? Block
does it supply 12 V? (loaded to the monitor).
DM> By the way, I forgot to ask on the back above the round connector it says “BK”
DM> what does this mean?
Perhaps "Keyboard block". These monitors were equipped with various
computers and video terminals (in particular, there is also a bare-bones version -
used in DVK).
From
Victor Ronin
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12 July 2006
Hello, D-M
It seems to me that this is Vesta-IK31 on the PLM :)
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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12 July 2006
Hello, m.d.
thanks, last night I managed to connect the monitor and now it makes me happy
inscription
"1989 Didaktik Skalica"
Question: Is this really a Spectrum or a left-wing Soviet development?
From
Roman Borokhov
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12 July 2006
Hello, All
The "BK" connector has nothing to do with the "BK-0010" (see monitor diagram).
DM> thanks, last night I still managed to connect the monitor and now it is
DM> the inscription makes me happy
DM> "1989 Didaktik Skalica"
DM> Question: Is this really a Spectrum or a left-wing Soviet development?
Isn't this something like http://zx.interface1.net/clones/didaktik.html by any chance?
From
Victor Ronin
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14 July 2006
Hello, D-M
take a picture and show it here
and names of m / s census
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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14 July 2006
Hello Ronin
Very similar, but still this is the Penza computer "SYMBOL" (all Penza
the sinclairists worked on this) for this I’m looking for a diagram (no one in Penza has
left)
By the way, unlike its foreign counterpart, this thing has only four outputs
: for color TV, for b/w TV, for tape recorder and for joystick (all of them are 5
needle-shaped) and there are no system interfaces, but there are a lot of empty ones on the board
places for large microcircuits and two rows of holes (22 holes per row) but what
I don’t know what to do with this, but I really want to do something myself
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Dmitry Kashirin
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14 July 2006
Hello Ronin
Just took a photo of "MY JOY"
here are the photos:
If anyone can't see it, here's a list of microcircuits:
T34VG
9310 OP
=======
KR1858VM1
9302 OP
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KR1013RE1
9303 020
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2DS627A
9112
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1HT251
9202
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KR1533LH2
9204
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K561LH1A
9305
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8 pieces:
R565RU5
9221
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2 pieces:
K555LH1
9206
P.S.
please help me find a diagram or at least tell me where to go (or rather, where to look)
File: back 1.rar http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3442
File: front board.rar http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3443
File: SYMBOL(main view).rar http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=3444
From
Maxim Saratovtsev
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12 February 2007
Hello, D-M
DM> =======
DM> 2DS627A
DM> 9112
DM> =======
I wonder what kind of microcircuit this is? What are its functions? I recently bought
four pieces from gold miners.
From
Alexey Zhabin
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13 February 2007
Hello Dendy
Den> I wonder what kind of microcircuit this is? What are its functions? I recently
Den> bought four pieces from gold miners.
This is not a microcircuit: v2_tong2; Regular; diode assembly.
From
Alexey Zhabin
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13 February 2007
Hello Ronin
Ron> I think this is Vesta-IK31 on the PLM :)
Not necessarily, I have a "MASTER 48k" of Zelenograd origin on
based on the BMK, there is also a branded Zelenograd mask ROM, which is exactly
gives (c) 1991 Didaktic Scalica instead of (c) 1982 Sinclair research ltd.
From
Grigory Alekseevich Sinitsky
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24 February 2007
Hello KingOfEvil
Gym, people, who has a wiring diagram for connecting Soviet color connectors?
monitor "Electronics MS 6106-02"?
I am especially interested in the wiring of the round 5-pin connector along which
This monitor was once connected to Skoripon, now dead.
Of course, you can use scientific research to determine what connects where, but I don’t
I'm a fan of this method.
From
Grigory Alekseevich Sinitsky
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25 February 2007
Hello, D-M
DM> 1, 2 - power supply, +12 V;
DM> 12 - video input;
DM> 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11 - “general”.
DM> and another 10 and 9 on the diagram are signed “key”
DM>
DM> it seems, at least that’s how I connected it
And what about the “round” connector next to the double-row one? I think there's an RGB input there.
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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25 February 2007
Hello, falanger
1, 2 - power supply, +12 V;
12 - video input;
3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11 - “general”.
and also 10 and 9 on the diagram are signed “clave”
I think at least that's how I connected it
From
Grigory Alekseevich Sinitsky
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26 February 2007
Hello, D-M
I had to unsolder the RGB using the scientific method. First I found Synhra
then the colors.
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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26 February 2007
Hello, falanger
fal> And the “round” connector next to the double-row one? There I think there is an RGB input.
oh sorry, my 6105.01 is black-green, not RGB
haha by the way I remembered
I have two connectors: round (five pins) and rectangular (15 pins) so
my brother soldered something there so that the spec was connected to the round connector
when I wanted to return everything to working condition I had to unsolder everything and
return to original state
That's when I suffered :v2_wacko:
From
Dmitry Kashirin
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26 February 2007
Hello, falanger
Well then, share your experience (and diagram), maybe it will be useful for someone