From
Konstantin Butorin
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To
Kirill Frolov
8 March 2003
Hi Kirill!
08 March 2003 19:32, Kirill Frolov wrote to Alexander Razmayenko:
AR>> in truth, if - Karga (CGA that is) is just digital,
AR>> ugh damn it - analog, of course, RGB with the addition of Intensity and
AR>> that's all... and it differs from vga only in scans...
KF> Absolute nonsense. CGA fundamentally does not show more than 16 colors
KF> and EGA is more than 64. For specific monitor models, for the sake of simplicity
KF> circuits, especially on CGA, an analog input can also be implemented (all
KF> one computer digital output). But according to the standard it is digital.
Can you explain how this CGA, which is not much different from a TV, can
show only 16 colors? Is his phosphor so special? With color
differentiation? :-)
Bye Kirill!
From
Sergey Zotov
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To
All
18 October 2003
A day has passed, and you are still alive! All!
I connected my subject. The circuit is based on 2 mikrukhs LA3 and LE4, i.e. inversion of scans and
Correcting bright blacks.
The effect is amazing. Yellow color is missing as a class. Instead, red, or
purple, or something in between. And all other colors are fine
are displayed.
Another glitch - there is no Bright at all! Not only on black, but on no other
color.
Who can tell me what to do now?
Oh yes! My computer is a green scorpion. There were no other circuits soldered onto it.
before this one, i.e. deprived the board of virginity, but it turns out that it was in vain... :~(
ZXNet: 500:8462/1 ~/ <~ http://zxnet.da.ru/
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From
rNd
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To
Kirill Frolov
22 October 2003
Hello Kirill!
20 Oct 03 20:07, Sergey Zotov -> Kirill Frolov:
SZ> The question is open! Who connected Scorp to the EGA monitor?
I don’t understand why you’re so worried, I connected the quorum to our electronics,
there was ega Sharposky, there was also some kind of Toshiba (sort of)
there are no troubles there
rgb via ln1
the rest is through the buffer.
lp, ll, li, on the drum.
Bay W.B.R.
rNd
[Team: X-Tension] [FREE] [BSB] [GMD]
From
Nikolaj Amosov
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To
Sergey Zotov
22 October 2003
Hello Sergey!
Monday October 20, 2003 20:07:51 Sergey Zotov -> Kirill Frolov:
SZ>>> Who can tell me what to do now?
KF>> Connect via RGB. The monitor will have to be upgraded.
KF>> Find where the DAC is located to which the monitor input is connected
KF>> find where y
KF>> DAC output of RGB signals. Throw out the DAC and use it instead
KF>> connect
KF>> Spectrum. The signals may have to be inverted or
KF>> strengthen.
[disk error]
SZ> The question is open! Who connected Scorp to the EGA monitor?
I connected. To correct the colors (brown instead of yellow,
pale pink instead of bright red, pale blue instead of bright
blue) I had to arm myself with a cutter, a soldering iron and
pieces of wire. I cut the roads around the DAC one by one,
which in my opinion were color and looked at what
screen. Finally found that one path, circumcision
which immediately corrected the colors to normal.
[REAL ZX]
From
Konstantin Butorin
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To
Sergey Zotov
22 October 2003
Hi Sergey!
October 18, 2003 21:14, Sergey Zotov wrote to All:
SZ> I connected my subject. The circuit is based on 2 micros LA3 and LE4, i.e. inversion
SZ> scanning and correction of bright black.
[kus]
SZ> Who can tell me what to do now?
Of course, I could be wrong, but this should help. The board and monitor are like this for me
Well, one person did it on LH1 - he says it works. But I haven’t turned it on yet - no
I know.
And this diagram was in some magazine.
° ° ° ° °
(C) A.V. Apollonov, Arzamas, 1998
Connecting a CGA monitor
Recently, when connected to the ZS-256-T+
I had to use a color IBM CGA monitor
face a number of problems: since CGA
monitors are designed for TTL level signals
positive polarity, lowercase signals
and frame synchronization requires inversion
titrate, but the main disadvantage is due to
separate signal Intensity (brightness)
there is a bright black (whitish) color,
which makes the graphics simply terrible.
Below is my diagram, I provide -
This makes it easy to connect a CGA monitor when
In this case, black color is always black, i.e.
all 15 (not 16!) spectra are provided -
sky flowers.
1┌─────┐
-KSI ┌──┤ & │3 KSI
12D42 ────┤ 2│ o────────── 9 CGA
└──┤ D1.1│
└─────┘
4┌─────┐-SSI ┌──┤ & │6 SSI
13D42 ────┤ 5│ o─────────── 8 CGA
└──┤ D1.2│
└─────┘
R VD1 R1 2K R
7D43 ────>├────┬───███──┤ ── 3 CGA
G VD2 │ G
4D43 ────>├────┤ ── 4 CGA
B VD3 │ 9┌─────┐ B
12D43 ────>├────┴────┤ & │8 ── 5 CGA
I 10│ o─┐
9D43 ────────────────┤ D1.3│ │
└─────┘ │
┌────────────────┘
VD1-3 KD520 │ 12┌─────┐
│ ┌──┤ & │11 I
D1 K555LA3 └────┤13│ o──── 6 CGA
└──┤ D1.4│
└─────┘
R-G-B signals are not monitored.
педственно с микошемы D43 (KP11).
The scheme is sufficient enough to nominally
resistor R1.
CGA connector (9-pin):
┌───┬─────────────┬───────────
│ 1 │ Shield │ Earth │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 2 │ Ground │ Zemlya │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 3 │ Red │ Kpasny │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 4 │ Green │ Зеленый │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 5 │ Blue │ Blue │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 6 │ Intensity │ Япкость │
├───┼────────────┼───────────
│ 7 │ Nc │ Резепв │
├───┼────────────┼───────────│ 8 │ H.Sync │ Page Sync. │
├───┼────────────┼─────────────┤
│ 9 │ V.Sync │ Frame Sync. │
└───┴────────────┴─────────────┘
You can connect a CGA monitor in the same way.
to any Spectrum.
For Pentagon-128, signals must be taken from
the following microcircuits:
brightness - 9th leg D47
page sync - 1 leg D6
frame sync - 2nd leg D6
red R - 3rd leg D72
green G - 6 leg D72
blue B - 8 leg D72
By the way, you can also use EGA monitor
tori. They are designed to work in two
modes - CGA and EGA. This sometimes displays
indicated by MODE 1 and MODE 2 indication on the housing
monitor. EGA - monitor analyzes fields -
the number of horizontal sync pulses, pos-
stampeding at its entrance. If this polarity
is positive, then the relay switches the block
horizontal scanning at a frequency of about 16 kHz
(MODE1-CGA). If the horizontal sync pulses
have negative polarity, then the monitor
switches to EGA frequency - about 22KHz
(MODE 2).
EGA connector (9-pin):
┌───┬─────────────┐
│ 1 │ Earth │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 2 │ Extra Red │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 3 │ Red │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 4 │ Green │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 5 │ Blue │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 6 │ Extra Green │
├───┼─────────────┤│ 7 │ Additional Blue │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 8 │ Stp. Synkhp. │
├───┼─────────────┤
│ 9 │ Cadp.Synkhp. │
└───┴──────────────┘
Bye Sergey!
From
Alexander Razmayenko
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To
Kirill Frolov
27 October 2003
How are you, Kirill?
My onboard systems detected that on Friday October 24 2003 02:10,
Kirill Frolov wrote to Sergey Zotov:
KF> CGA and EGA monitors have DIGITAL INPUTS. In binary code to the monitor
^^^ exactly??? then your brother has your 32vtc also has a number
wow... :)
ugh, damn it - you need to read less boas...
in truth, if - Hag (CGA that is) is just digital, ugh damn it -
analog, of course, RGB with the addition of Intensity and all that... but from vga it
The only difference is the scan...
KF> CGA and EGA monitors are DIFFERENT, INCOMPATIBLE
why are you contradicting yourself?
oh well... :)
time to sleep
It's already 4 o'clock in the morning...
Best regards, Alexander Razmayenko.
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Alexander Razmayenko
7 November 2003
Press RESET immediately, Alexander Razmayenko!
On Mon, 27 Oct 03 04:51:17 +0300, Alexander Razmayenko wrote:
KF>> CGA and EGA monitors have DIGITAL INPUTS. In binary code to the monitor
AR> ^^^ exactly???
Absolutely.
AR> then your brother also has a digital 32vtc
AR> fhot... :)
Score: -10. For mocking the Russian language.
AR> ugh, damn it - you need to read less about the boa...
What is a "boa constrictor"?
AR> in truth, if - Hag (CGA that is) it’s just digital, damn
AR> - analog, of course, RGB with the addition of Intensity and all that... and from vga
AR> it differs only in scans...
Absolute nonsense. CGA fundamentally does not show more than 16 colors, but
EGA is greater than 64. For specific monitor models, for the sake of simplifying the circuit,
especially on CGA, an analog input can also be implemented (all the same
computer digital output). But according to the standard it is digital.
From
Kirill Frolov
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To
Konstantin Butorin
12 November 2003
Press RESET immediately, Konstantin Butorin!
On Sat, 08 Mar 03 23:19:59 +0300, Konstantin Butorin wrote:
KB> Can you explain how this is a CGA, which is not much different from a TV,
KB> can only show 16 colors? Is the phosphor so special?
KB> With color differentiation? :-)
It has a digital input. In general, input -> DAC -> video amplifier.
And usually it’s like this: input -> logic (inverter or something else) -> set of resistors,
as in Spectrum -> video amplification. Theoretically, the signal from the monitor
You can feed it directly to a video amplifier, but only theoretically.
From
Alexander Razmayenko
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To
Kirill Frolov
17 November 2003
How are you, Kirill?
My onboard systems detected that on Friday November 07 2003 19:45, Kirill
Frolov wrote to Alexander Razmayenko:
KF> Press RESET immediately, Alexander Razmayenko!
KF> On Mon, 27 Oct 03 04:51:17 +0300, Alexander Razmayenko wrote:
KF>>> CGA and EGA monitors have DIGITAL INPUTS. In binary code
KF>>> monitor
AR>> ^^^ exactly???
KF> Absolutely.
AR>> then your brother also has a digital 32vtc
AR>> fhot... :)
KF> Score: -10. For mocking the Russian language.
uh... Monsieur moderator? although this is not my condemnation, it is only
puzzling question... although... perhaps Monsieur Komodo is really undercover :)
but I'm just asking :)
AR>> ugh, damn it - you need to read less about the boa...
I agree. moreover, in a deliberate form... and so if - it was just me kidding.
although I apologize for this if someone has this, not you... well, sorry,
I won't bother you guys too much :)
KF> What is a "boa constrictor"?
go online to the website udaff.ru and have fun with all the creativity there
program :) AR>> in truth, if - Hag (CGA that is) is just digital,
AR>> ugh damn it - analog, of course, RGB with the addition of Intensity and
AR>> that's all... and it differs from vga only in scans...
KF> Absolute nonsense. CGA is fundamentally more than 16 colors
KF> shows
KF> and EGA is more than 64. For specific monitor models, for the sake of simplification
KF> circuits, especially on CGA, an analog input can also be implemented (all
KF> the computer has one digital output). But according to the standard it is digital.
E.G.A.
RrGgBb = 6 digits in the palette register! (small symbols - brightness channel for
colors)
2 to the 6th power = 64 colors
TsGA
RGBI= bit
that is, for each EGA color channel there is a subcolor or channel
brightness (in other words that is)
and...mmmmmdaaa...sorry :)
in the CGA there is a common brightness channel for all colors... in total we really get that without
participation of the brightness channel comes out 8 colors with the brightness of our 16 colors...
Okay, let me admit my mistake once again and sprinkle ashes on my head :)
but by the way, there was no such reasoned answer from you... I did all this myself
I dug it up... just like that :-P... so don’t consider your victory an absolute one... ;)
it's a draw so to speak. :)Best regards, Alexander Razmayenko.
From
Moderator
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To
Alexander Razmayenko
25 November 2003
Hello, Alexander!
One day, Mon Nov 17 2003 04:00, Alexander Razmayenko wrote to Kirill Frolov:
AR>>> ^^^ exactly???
KF>> Absolutely.
AR>>> then your brother also has a digital 32vtc
AR>>> fhot... :)
KF>> Score: -10. For mocking the Russian language.
AR> uh... Monsieur moderator?
Me! What? ;)
AR> although this is not my condemnation, it is only
AR> perplexing question...
There may have been banter, here, obviously, someone was offended. Happens.
PS. From me personally, by the way, the assessment would be similar ;)
The people have problems with the Russian language, big problems; sometimes
It’s really impossible to understand - is this a joke or is it just necessary, in the sense
that such writing characterizes the literacy of an individual.
Best wishes.
Moderator [ZX] [Quake]
From
Alexander Razmayenko
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To
Moderator
2 December 2003
How are you, Moderator?
My onboard systems detected that on Tuesday November 25 2003 01:05,
Moderator wrote Alexander Razmayenko:
KF>>> Score: -10. For mocking the Russian language.
AR>> uh... Monsieur moderator?
M> ME! What? ;)
I apologize if I asked the question incorrectly again - I was just asking a question about
whether this name KF is an “undercover” moderator...
well... apparently I carelessly brought down a snowball... although if you look at
the situation is not without humor, it all sounds quite funny...
but the fact that in that phrase there was a call for help - and I just realized it myself... :)
(by this I don’t want to injure anyone, much less - I don’t even want to think about arguing with
moderator)
AR>> although this is not my condemnation, it is only
AR>> perplexing question...
M> there, perhaps, banter, here, obviously, someone was offended. It happens.
yes. exactly like that... pure banter... well... that means the local audience is not
I’m familiar with the creativity there.. for this reason, let me apologize - with my
protocols into someone else's network...
M> PS. From me personally, by the way, the assessment would be similar ;)
Well... I mean... I admit my guilt... measure, degree, depth :) (c) M> The people have problems with the Russian language, big problems; sometimes
M> it’s really impossible to understand - is this a joke or is it just necessary, in
M> in the sense that such writing characterizes the literacy of an individual
M> individual.
about the fact that the problem with Russians is not to laugh, but probably to cry
should be when you read not misspellings or distortions (for the sake of banter) but real ones
mistakes... this is sad...
2KF: and all the same, you probably need to at least from time to time pay attention to all kinds of differences
emoticons... although this is just IMHO...
Therefore, let me take my leave
Best regards, Alexander Razmayenko.