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From Nikolaj Amosov To All 21 June 2004

Greetings, All! In the monitor (cga Philips) today began to periodically appear clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What's there can it click and what could this mean for me? It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... [REAL ZX]

From Wladimir Bulchukey To Nikolaj Amosov 22 June 2004

Don't slaughter the cash cow that lays golden eggs, Nikolaj...! 21 Jun 04 22:22, Nikolaj Amosov -> All: NA> Today they began to appear periodically in the monitor (cga Philips) NA> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What's there NA> can click and what can this mean for me? NA> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... Obviously a spark breakdown. Remove the monitor cover and catch it in the dark moment of breakdown. If the tube breaks through the contact panel, you can try to cut out/cut out the broken section of plastic (not forgetting about safety precautions). With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

From Ivan Kuvshinov To Nikolaj Amosov 23 June 2004

NA> Today they began to appear periodically in the monitor (cga Philips) NA> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What's there NA> can click and what can this mean for me? NA> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... Most likely TDKS. This black thing with a wire coming from it with Velcro to the kinescope. Replacing with a new one is pointless, because they are quite diverse, and therefore scarce, so that the price is the same as a used monitor. :( Actually the main thing The purpose of this thing is high voltage. I don't recommend it leaving such a monitor on, unattended - may catch fire. Yes, and if you “sniff out” where it clicks, then keep in mind that she not only breaks through inside herself (usually), but and outwards at a distance of 5 cm, it can easily hit - I saw it myself, so don't bring your face too close. KIA

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 23 June 2004

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated June 21, 2004, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to All, and then it was 22:22:09 on the clock. NA> Today they started appearing periodically in the monitor (cga Philips) NA> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What's there NA> can click and what can this mean for me? A high-willed breakdown of something. Often occurs due to the fact that dust accumulates in the monica, which promotes spark jumping. It may also be due to the fact that some contacts have separated, oxidized, etc. NA> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... Or maybe the first sign of the end :-) SO you have every chance of being left without Monica. All the best, Alexander.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 23 June 2004

Hello, Alexander! Wednesday 23 June 2004 18:42:34 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What NA>> there NA>> can click and what can this mean for me? AM> High-willed breakdown of something. AM> Often occurs due to the fact that it accumulates in the monica AM> dust that AM> promotes spark jumping. What’s interesting is that after warming up, after a few minutes, stops punching. I'll take a look inside this weekend... [disk error] NA>> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... AM> Or maybe the first sign of the end :-) AM> SO you have every chance of being left without Monica. If you jinx it, I'll bring it to you for repairs ;) [REAL ZX]

From Nikolaj Amosov To Wladimir Bulchukey 23 June 2004

Hello, Wladimir! Tuesday 22 June 2004 21:16:19 Wladimir Bulchukey -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What NA>> there NA>> can click and what can this mean for me? NA>> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... WB> Obviously, spark breakdown. Remove the monitor cover and in the dark WB> catch WB> moment of breakdown. If it breaks through the contact panel of the tube, Where can we get darkness in June in St. Petersburg??? [REAL ZX]

From Wladimir Bulchukey To Nikolaj Amosov 24 June 2004

Don't slaughter the cash cow that lays golden eggs, Nikolaj...! 23 Jun 04 22:19, Nikolaj Amosov -> Aleksandr Majorov: NA> What’s interesting is that after warming up, in a few minutes, NA> stops piercing. After the tube warms up, its anode current appears, which causes some a decrease in the anode voltage, this is how it should be. With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

From Wladimir Bulchukey To Nikolaj Amosov 24 June 2004

Don't slaughter the cash cow that lays golden eggs, Nikolaj...! 23 Jun 04 22:28, Nikolaj Amosov -> Wladimir Bulchukey: NA> Where can we get that darkness in June in St. Petersburg??? In the bathroom, in the toilet, in the closet... You'll have to strain yourself and move computer with monitor there for a while. Do not touch the equipment at the same time and pipes, bath. With the best - Wlodek # wlblack(@)newmail.ru # http://wlodeks.narod.ru [ZX] [500:95/462@ZXNet] [2:5016 Forever] [Golyanovo] [Old Russians]

From Vladimir Karpenko To Nikolaj Amosov 25 June 2004

Hello Nikolaj. 21 Jun 04 22:22, you wrote to All: NA> Today they began to appear periodically in the monitor (cga Philips) NA> clicks. At the same time, Scorp is overloaded. Both are grounded. What's there NA> can click and what can this mean for me? NA> It will be very disappointing to be left without a monitor... I have the same problem with the World Trade Center. Vladimir [I.ZX] [Sprinter Developer] [MGAPI-UP-1'2003] [Sprinter2000Pro] [Daewoo CPC] [Sprinter UNofficial site: www.shaos.net/nuke/] [Liberation of Liberia]

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 26 June 2004

Hello, Alexander! Wednesday 23 June 2004 22:19:41 Nikolaj Amosov -> Aleksandr Majorov: AM>> High-willed breakdown of something. AM>> Often occurs due to the fact that it accumulates in the monica AM>> dust that AM>> promotes spark jumping. NA> What’s interesting is that after warming up, in a few minutes, NA> stops punching. I'll take a look inside this weekend... Today I took off the protective screen, unscrewed the back cover, turned on mon and moved away so as not to kill him. I wait five minutes - nothing doesn't click. Strange, usually in the first three minutes six times clicks. Okay, turned off the monitor, waited a few minutes until the charge drained, I went to see where the dust had accumulated. It turns out there is almost no dust - I installed the monitor half a year ago I cleaned it when I brought it home. Just in case, I wiped it with a cloth. everything I could get my hands on. Turned it on - it works. Turned it off screwed the back cover into place, put on the protective screen, turned on and then it clicked. It got interesting. Removed the protective screen - the clicking stopped. Put it on - the spec immediately rebooted. Then I remembered how it all started - I bought a surge protector and Speck became grounded. The protective screen is attached with a wire to the power supply housing. But why do the clicks come from, because the monitor is turned on through the same blockpower supply with a normal three-pin wire and therefore already grounded. In general, when I turn on the monitor, I take pictures for a few minutes protective screen from the monitor... [REAL ZX]

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 27 June 2004

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated June 26, 2004, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 20:50:06 on the clock. ( ) NA> and then it clicked. It got interesting. Removed the protective screen - NA> stopped clicking. Put it on - the spec immediately rebooted. NA> Then I remembered where it all started - I bought a surge protector and NA> Speck became grounded. The protective screen is attached with a wire NA> to the power supply housing. NA> But why do the clicks come from, because the monitor is turned on through the same block NA> power supply with a normal three-pin wire and therefore narrower NA> grounded. NA> In general, when I turn on the monitor I take pictures for a few minutes NA> protective screen from the monitor... Better figure out your “grounding”. Where is your pilot grounded? IMHO nowhere, in houses most often there is no such thing as grounding. So your monique and power supply spec "earth" are turned on together and not anywhere grounded. The fact that Speck rebooted is proof, there is static :) My advice to you is either do normal grounding, or do it as it was. Otherwise you're taking a risk :) All the best, Alexander.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 28 June 2004

Hello, Alexander! Sunday June 27, 2004 23:12:49 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>> Then I remembered where it all started - I bought a network one NA>> filter and NA>> Speck became grounded. The protective screen is attached with a wire NA>> to the power supply housing. AM> Better figure out your “grounding”. The pilot is where you are Is AM> grounded? IMHO AM> nowhere, in houses most often there is no such thing as AM> grounding. That's right, there is no grounding in my house. I looked in the dashboard and under looked into the bath. I had to screw the wire to the battery. AM> So you have a mono and power supply spec "ground" included together and AM> not anywhere AM> grounded. Well, I don’t know, at least the computer cases give you an electric shock stopped after such grounding. Half-phase does not hang on the body - pointed with the tester. AM> The fact that Speck rebooted is proof, statics AM> available :) AM> My advice to you is either do normal grounding, or AM> do it as it was. AM> Otherwise you're taking a risk :)Yes, I’ll probably return the old two-pin power cord to the Spec... [REAL ZX]

From Kirill Frolov To Nikolaj Amosov 29 June 2004

Press RESET immediately, Nikolaj Amosov! On Sat, 26 Jun 04 19:50:06 +0400, Nikolaj Amosov wrote: NA> screwed the back cover into place, put on the protective screen, turned it on NA> and then it clicked. It got interesting. Removed the protective screen - NA> stopped clicking. Put it on - the spec immediately rebooted. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NA> Then I remembered where it all started - I bought a surge protector and NA> Speck became grounded. The protective screen is attached with a wire NA> to the power supply housing. Spectrum? AT power supply? NA> But why do the clicks come from, because the monitor is turned on through the same block NA> power supply with a normal three-pin wire and therefore narrower NA> grounded. It hits the screen from the kinescope. As for the rebooting Spectrum, the answer is generally the same -- SHOW THE CURRENT PATH. And ground equipment isolated from objects environment, you can even go to the nearest cactus, it also helps against radiation...

From Kirill Frolov To Nikolaj Amosov 29 June 2004

Press RESET immediately, Nikolaj Amosov! On Mon, 28 Jun 04 21:09:48 +0400, Nikolaj Amosov wrote: AM>> My advice to you is either do normal grounding, or AM>> do it as it was. Otherwise you're taking a risk :) NA> Yes, I’ll probably return the old two-pin power cord to Spec... You need to properly route the common wire inside the Spectrum. The general principle is that everything is connected at one point, in the power supply. And two different black wires coming out of the power supply are not the same “ground”, like the two red ones, are not the same 5 volts. And understand that the “ground” in the cable to the monitor is not “ground” at all, and the current return is for the signal conductors, and nothing more. Same This also applies to audio. To be absolutely sure of this, I advise take a thick wire and directly connect the monitor body to Spectrum power supply, at the same point where the screen is connected.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 5 July 2004

Hello, Alexander! Monday June 28, 2004 22:09:48 Nikolaj Amosov -> Aleksandr Majorov: AM>> The fact that Speck rebooted is proof, statics AM>> available :) AM>> My advice to you is either do normal grounding, or AM>> do it as it was. AM>> Otherwise you're taking a risk :) NA> Yes, I’ll probably return the old two-pin power cord to NA> Spec... Surprisingly, replacing the cord with a two-pin one did nothing - it still clicks. I even disconnected the ground wire protective screen from the computer case - no effect. I don’t even know what to do now. [REAL ZX]

From Aleksandr Majorov To Nikolaj Amosov 6 July 2004

Hello Nikolaj! I am responding to your letter dated 07/05/2004, then written by Nikolaj Amosov to Aleksandr Majorov, and then it was 21:45:05. ( ) NA>> Yes, I’ll probably return the old two-pin power cord to NA>> Spec... NA> Surprisingly, replacing the cord with a two-pin one did nothing - NA> still clicks. I even disconnected the grounding wire NA> protective screen from the computer case - no effect. NA> I don’t even know what to do now. Try to do everything as it was before - will the thread change? Try turning the power plug on your computer or Monica, sometimes, for some reason, there is a difference in the “polarity” of the inclusion in 220. Well, maybe, after all, Monique began to die... All the best, Alexander.

From Nikolaj Amosov To Aleksandr Majorov 6 July 2004

Hello, Alexander! Tuesday 06 July 2004 15:04:42 Aleksandr Majorov -> Nikolaj Amosov: NA>>> Yes, I’ll probably return the old two-pin power cord to NA>>> Spec... NA>> Surprisingly, replacing the cord with a two-pin one does nothing NA>> gave - NA>> still clicks. I even disconnected the grounding wire AM> Try to do everything as it was before - what a thread AM> will change? I just solved the problem differently - simply disconnected monitor from a computer power supply and connected separately two-wire cable to the socket. Grounding the protective shield left. I think there is something wrong with the grounding in the monitor.... AM> Well, maybe, after all, Monique began to die... Ugh (3 times). [REAL ZX]