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From Dmitry Lomov → To Oleg Dokukin 11 January 1999
Hi, Oleg!
OD> from the top only, regarding hemorrhoids:
OD> the hammock has 4 pluses
OD> 1 large memory
yes. but this is no longer a plus, or rather, not only a plus.
Anyone can stick a meter into their scorpion without straining too much.
True, with pens; in the hammock it is already there.
OD> 2 window with #8000 - in my opinion a huge plus in writing
OD> system prog
not only system ones.
all this is in the general case; in reality, software is written for everything at once
clones, and this gadget is difficult to use.
OD> 3 standard open trdos ports
yes, but see the comment to point 2. if only under gmh - yes,
and if it suits everything, it’s better to do it the old way. actually, about this to me
nothing is known, I didn’t think (and don’t think) that there is such a thing there.
OD> 4 Pentagon emulation - Pentagon demos look cool only
OD> on the Pentagon :)
this is undeniable.
and now the cons ;->
1) the most crooked ports. any addressing via #FD automatically
goes to the bathhouse, even if he went to the scorpion.
That. if you need to quickly look at something old, use fashion
switch. Note that the only way back is by turning off the power.
maybe the last one has already been fixed, but it’s been like this for two months
back. at one time I suggested to Zonov ways to solve the problemadditional ports _competently_ - he did not agree with me.
the user will rake... I must say that at the moment
I already know one person who has gmh, some
it was used for a while, and then was removed and polished on a shelf, in
for various reasons.
2) port #00 is always open, even in pentagon mode.
3) connection complexity. rather, IMHO, and not a fact. I was fiddling around
It took about two hours for it to work.
4) IMHO, bad design. the socket under the zipper is breaking apart,
and insert the processor there (if, say, you need to remove
hmm) impossible.
5) the shadow site has remained virtually unchanged, all the glitches remain.
6) the most important thing is the high price, or rather, the low ratio
features/price. Unfortunately, none of the possibilities yet
supported.
OD> I won’t write about the minuses, because if I write about the minuses, I won’t DME
OD> will be able to read this letter :)
don't tell me. Not everything is as bad as it seems. half the cons
fixable at any stage.
Best wishes.
Dmitry.
..LD..X-TRADE..
From Oleg Grigoriev → To Oleg Dokukin 23 January 1999
Пусть враги твои, Oleg, умрут без сыновей!
20-01-99 в 16:11:00 Oleg Dokukin ═> Oleg Grigoriev:
[Hу чего вы все к темплейту привязались?]
OD>>> 2 - Описалово не фонтан , всмысле довольно скудное ,у мя не более
OD>>> того чем пролетало в эхах вроде .
OG>> Как? А гарну книжицу тебе не дали? Ая-я-я-яй...
OD> так ведь книжица есть печатный вариант пролетавшего в эхах вроде
Hе, там больше. Чуть-чуть. А в заду есть принципиальная
схема. :)
OD> кста мне ее дали еще за неделю до того как пошел разговор о
OD> написании под гмь.
Пф-ф... У меня был gmx еще когда книжка представляла собой
одну идею. Середина/конец лета.
OD>>> 3 - Софт - ну дык гоу ту Скорпион , бей себя в грудь :),говори "я могу"
OD>>> и вперед на минные поля глюков МОА :))
OG>> В этот понедельник (то бишь в прошлый) ты как раз должен
OG>> был бить себя в грудь... Hу как? :)
OD> по правде я непомню какой тогда день был, я вобще дней не наблюдаю,
OD> так вот все прошло довольно легко , я отдал командер и чекалку
Hу, это-то понятно.
OD> на распостранение и сразу получил предложение написать командер
OD> под гамак , чем скоро и займусь.
А в каком эквиваленте воплощается гонарар? Если не секрет?
OD> хотя надо признать что полная утряска всех вопросов была довольно
OD> долгой , но только по причине полного бардака у них в конторе.
Места у них мало. Очень.
OG>> Денег не даст. Это 99.99%. :)
OD> возьмет на распостранение. Хотя поиметь с этого чегонить
OD> нереально (имхо).
~~~~~~
Ты думаешь. Я знаю. Проходил, года полтора назад. Железки
Зонов раздает охотно (много у него их), а вот деньги...
OD>>> 2 OG : кинь в мя мылом гмх рамблк исдосный.
OG>> Тебе который? В смысле, с нижней памятью, али без? (Страш-
OG>> ным шопотом: выкинь этот геморрой!)
OD> с верхней онлы,
Внизу. Адрес - восемь тысяч.
OD> на счет геммора :
OD> гамак имеет 4 плюса
Тут тебе ЛД неплохо расписал.
OD> 3 стандартно открытые порты трдоса
Стандартно? Кстати, проверь - открываются ли? (Hе проверял.)
OD> 4 эмуляцию пентагона - демы под пентагон круто смотрятся только
OD> на пентагоне :)
Видел бы ты, как это смотрелось в начале... :)
OD> можно сказать что все это мол есть в спринтере причем там
OD> всего этого на порядок больше , но у спринтера сейчас есть
OD> просто фатальный недостаток из-за которого я не могу
OD> работать с этим компом - его у мя нет ! :) и этим все сказано.
OD> минусы
OD> о минусах я писать не буду,ибо если я напишу о минусах,ДМЕ не
OD> сможет прочесть это письмо :)
Hа самом деле их не так много - но они на мой взгляд фа-
тальны. Как следствие - gmx не в компьютере, а на подоконнике.
2Алл: Могу дать поюзать. :)
Помнится, давно я Ларченке передавал бумажку с описанием
глюков теневика, и на Инлайте с ним говорил на эту тему...
Пф-ф... Воз и ныне там. Практически все глюки остались. Секун-
дочку... Гхе, да вроде все остались.
В этом главное зло - в наплевательском отношении.
OD>>> 2 OG/LD : люди а может вы имеете инфу какую нить дополнительныю ?
OD>>> поделитесь плиз :)
OG>> Я лучше промолчу. :) А то придется самому себе плюс ста-
OG>> вить. :)
OD> главное вовремя задать вопрос : тема случаем не офтопик ?:)
Hет. Обсуждайте. Hо мне эта штука не нравится. Продать бы
её... За 44$ :-E
OD> или тут могло быть твое личное мнение состоящее целиком из
OD> непереводимой игры слов ?:)
Можно сказать и так.
С наилучшими пожеланиями, Олег aka Ruiner.
ps. Гы... Ларченко поддержал расширенную память только при пе-
чати количества мозгов.
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From Oleg Grigoriev → To Oleg Dokukin 27 January 1999
Let your enemies, Oleg, die without sons!
01/24/99 at 03:50:00 Oleg Dokukin ═> Oleg Grigoriev:
OG>> What is the equivalent of the fee? If it's not a secret?
OD> gave for distribution - i.e. didn't sell.
You hesitated... You said that you “immediately received an offer
write a commander under gmh, which I’ll do soon.” What are you
will you get it? You _received_ GMX for what you _gave_. A..?
OD>>> although it must be admitted that the complete settlement of all issues was quite
OD>>> long, but only because of the complete chaos in their office.
OG>> They don't have much space. Very.
OD> what do you mean? I was talking about what one of them says, the other doesn’t know
OD>, this doesn’t concern the third, the fourth doesn’t care :(
Previously, they had fewer people (and pisishniks too), there were
more space and less clutter. Now they just don't
cope with so many clients.
OG>> Standard? By the way, check if they open? (Have not checked.)
OD> it’s not possible to get everything together - I’ve never written a turbo loader - and not yet
OD> I want to write, that’s why I have an incentive to check this stray
OD> there was none. OD> but I’ll check how the thread is needed specifically.
Hm...
D.I.
LD A,#04
LD BC,#1FFD
OUT(C),A
LD A,#3C
OUT(#FF),A
LD A,#08
OUT(#1F),A
CALL #3EF5
D.I.
LD A,79
OUT(#7F),A
LD A,#18
OUT(#1F),A
CALL #3EF5
D.I.
LD A,#08
OUT(#1F),A
CALL #3EF5
D.I.
XOR A
OUT(C),A
EI
RET
It should work. If I didn't screw it up.
OG>> In fact, there are not many of them - but in my opinion they are fa-
OG>> talny. As a result, gmx is not in the computer, but on the windowsill.
OD> fatal - no, unpleasant - yes
In _my_ opinion.
OG>> I remember a long time ago I gave Larchenka a piece of paper with a description
OG>> glitches of the shadow guy, and I talked to him about this topic on Inlight...
OD> I also wrote a pretty good manuscript about this, but that’s okay.
OD> by the way, funny - when I told Larchenka that there were several
OD> problematic:) using shadow and upper memory at the same time OD> he answered me - that this is how it should be!!!!, according to him, shadow
OD> should not know that a hammock is installed!!!!! what's most interesting
OD> he was completely serious and absolutely sober.
"What did grandma say?
- Ap-ap-ap-ap..." (c) joke.
I mean, what did he say in response to the logical question “what about !@#$?”
OD> I'm just wondering if this is a joke or just an indicator of attitude?
This? This is _Larchenka_.
OG>> The main evil in this is the disregard for it.
OD> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OD> the truth speaks through your mouth, how sad it is.
Okay, at least I didn’t add “my son.” :)
OG>> ps. Gee... Larchenko supported extended memory only with pe-
OG>> the number of brains.
OD> and even then the detector is buggy - in Pentagon mode it only finds
OD> one meter out of two.
Hm... Maybe the #dffd port is not closed in stump mode? From them
everything can be expected.
Best wishes, Oleg aka Ruiner.
From Oleg Dokukin → To Oleg Grigoriev 28 January 1999
Hello Oleg!
once 27-01-99 at exactly 15:56:00
Oleg Grigoriev wrote to Oleg Dokukin about GMX...
OG> You skipped... You said that you “immediately received an offer
OG> write commander under gmh, which I’ll do soon.” What are you
OG> will you get it? You _received_ GMX for what you _gave_. A..?
I got a hammock to support it in the new commander, the old one
I gave it away for distribution.
speaking of birds:) I’ll most likely make another version of the old one
commander with mount support.
then I finally got around to the scroller in the hammock, and what did I see?
it turns out he's pretty fast and you can screw him not only
up down but also right left, though only in increments of 16 familiarities,
why was I so surprised that the scrolling is fast, I’m just so used to it
I saw his work only in the hammock test, but there he was, to put it mildly
nerdy, by the way, what kind of _censorship_ wrote this test?, if they do it
buggy hardware (constantly freezing PC keyboard), then at least support
they would hold it normally, but no, the entire key survey was done without
delays, well, how about putting a key in the survey, no, it’s not
for us, we save bytes, it comes to the point that the shadow weighs
when trying to jump somewhere along j somewhere, the same applies to
test.
big fatsk then lamerz who write hardware support on their pussies
for spec.Well, I’ve already become some kind of hackerism, they’ve driven the man :(
OG>>> The main evil in this is the disregard for it.
OD>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OD>> the truth speaks through your mouth, how sad it is.
OG> Okay, at least I didn’t add “my son”. :)
my son :)))
With best wishes, Oleg Dokukin aka Light - D.C.G.
From Oleg Grigoriev → To Oleg Dokukin 22 February 1999
Let your enemies, Oleg, die without sons!
11-02-99 at 00:58:00 Oleg Dokukin ═> Oleg Grigoriev:
OG>> Well, someone figured out how Larchenko thinks this leftist
OG>> crc?
OD> They shook Larchenko.
Come on. People change. Still. Come on, share. :)
OG>> Wiggle your head and leave. Fidgeting? Well, that means they are opening.
OD> doesn’t fidget but just lights the lantern.
OD> from reliable sources :) : open tr dos ports are not implemented
OD> in gmh, the second bit 1ffd is responsible for selecting ROM tr dos, but not for
Yes... :(
OD> enabling ports i.e. There is ROM, there are no ports, according to
Wait, why does “the lantern light up”? All operations since
there were in oz.
Let's try again...
D.I.
LD A,#3C
CALL TOPRFF
LD A,#D8
CALL TOPR1F
CALL INTRQ
LD A,#08
CALL TOPR1F
CALL INTRQ
LD BC,#1FFD
LD A,#04
OUT(C),A
XOR A
OUT(#FF),A
OUT(C),A
EI
RET
INTRQ LD IX,#3EF5
CALL DOS
D.I.
RET
TOPRFF LD C,#FF
JR TOPR
TOPR1F LD C,#1F
TOPR LD IX,#2A53DOS PUSH IX
D.I.
JP #3D2F
Does the disk spin up?
WBR, Oleg.