articles about multicolor and border effects?
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Hello, All
Please advise what to read on the subject topic to make it more sophisticated (i.e. not
how to do it in 5 minutes, and with the most detailed details)...
tnx!
Hello, boo_boo
ZX-Time, InfoGuide (ex-InfernoGuide & ZX-Guide).
Hello SMT
well almost.
only if there are commands with an even number of clock cycles, and some with an odd number.
and I remember that it worked everywhere (Pentagon, Scorpio, and maybe also Byte)
a bit sickly.
but if you sharpen the multicolor for a specific clone, then yes, stupid
Any multicolor can be made by searching in 5 minutes.
Hello Vitamin
And to delve into other people's demos with your hands, although I myself am not very good
I get it... but still, it’s better to ask something unclear later...
Hello, rasmer
ras> And dig into other people's demos with your hands, although I myself am not very good
ras> you get it well... but still, it’s better to ask something you don’t understand later...
no, I’d rather read the texts - I want to consider the topic as a whole, without particulars
%)
Hello, boo_boo
I don’t see any problems other than technical/coder ones - the video controller draws the picture
linearly along the lines. the only question is how to organize the precise delays before
writing to memory/ports. but this is written in the manual for the Z80 - how many cycles does it have?
each team
Hello Vitamin
no, I mean about such a customizer that Q, A - PrePaperDelay is changed,
O, P- LineDelay and 9.0 - some other garbage for all sorts of M1s and other crap.
before launching the program, the user is given the opportunity to poke around,
and then the multicolor renderer is generated (i.e. it is completely generated, and not
the delays are just introduced)
Hello, boo_boo
heh. you give everyone the #FF port (am I doing something wrong?).
As for auto-tuning, nothing is impossible. the best auto-tuning
buttons Q, A, O, P, 9, 0 ;)
Hello Sinus
Sin> well, almost.
Sin> only if there are commands with an even number of clock cycles, and some with an odd number.
Sin> and I remember that it worked everywhere (pentagon, scorpion, and maybe also byte)
Sin> got kicked out a bit badly.
Sin>
And what does it really matter how many clock cycles a command has? at least 5, at least 7, at least 10... They
that’s how much they do, unless, of course, it’s some kind of perversion like scorpio
=))
> but if you sharpen the multicolor for a specific clone, then yes,
> Any multicolor can be made using blunt search in 5 minutes.
That’s why there is an opinion that it’s better to forget about multicolor altogether. Will you do it under
Pentagon - everyone else will be cursed, if you do auto-tuning - it’s all the same
nothing will auto-tune (checked - it’s all crap!), if you do it for scorpio -
on other Scorpio models it won’t even work... In short, no matter what you do, that’s all
one thing, screw up somewhere and it will work out))
PS: there really is an option - when the multicolor code is automatically generated by
data on the number of cycles per line, number of lines to the screen, M1 slowness ala
scorpio, etc. - but the pain is big, and anyway, where the brakes are
irregular ones (branded specs, turbocharged computers) - again it will be crap.
Hello Vitamin
Vit> Truly! %)
Vit> and manually, in the main program loop (with halt required!) polling
Vit> keys change pre_paper_delay. the lines on the curb will show
Vit> multicolor window vertically (time scan), and time on
Vit> take the output of attributes based on the length of the line in measures (on 224 penta
Vit> if I'm not mistaken).
Well, what will you get on the Scorpio with your 224 ticks? Totally crap
and on different scorpions it is different. And your tuner will break down. Or he
also adjusts the number of cycles in a line, taking into account the braking of the scorpion
(about even bars)???
Hello Sinus
Sin> and then the multicolor renderer is generated
Quite a hemorrhoid thing. IMHO it’s easier to write a general engine with “delays” in
in the form of macros and then changing them to weaken several versions for different machines
At one time I even wrote a running line on the border %) with a fairly smooth
scroll.
Hello Sinus
Sin> the best auto-tuning is with the Q, A, O, P, 9,0 buttons
Truly! %)
In short, the interrupt handler should be something like this (type pseudocode)
int: save_all_regs
pre_paper_delay
draw_border_line (for convenience)
loop:
put_attrs
do loop
draw_border_line (for convenience)
restore_all_regs
and manually, in the main program loop (with halt required!), polling the keys
change pre_paper_delay. the lines on the border will show the multicolor window
vertically (time base), and take the time to display attributes based on
length of the line in clock cycles (on pentas 224 if I'm not mistaken).
Hello, lvd
lvd> Well, what can you do on a scorpio with your 224 ticks?
Let's read more carefully about 224 clock cycles.
and the tuner is exclusively manual (in the sense of a delay before the paper). then in
I looked at the counters in the debugger and entered them into the final program if necessary. question in
line duration is worth
Hello SMT
SMT> I don’t see any problems, except technical/coding ones - the video controller draws
SMT> image linearly along the lines. the only question is how to organize
SMT> precise delays before writing to memory/ports. but this is written in
SMT> manual for Z80 - how many clock cycles does each command have
no, everything is clear in principle... I just wanted to get into the ULA spirit and
the difference between the clones in this regard...
Hello, lvd
lvd> They are carried out so much, unless, of course, this is some kind of perversion
lvd> scorpio type =))
I just ask without insulting the rulez computers...
Hello Vitamin
Vit> at one time I even wrote a running line on the border %) with quite
Vit> smooth scrolling.
preserved? want to take a look :)
Hello Sinus
Sin> can't be done for everyone. there will always be one where your
Sin> "pre-render" will not work
of course. but on the other hand, who will guarantee that it will work correctly?
autodeterminer? ;)
non-standard computer? be prepared for glitches and hardware-dependent jokes
Hello Vitamin
Vit> is quite a hemorrhoid thing. IMHO it's easier to write a general engine with
Vit> "delays" in the form of macros and then changing them to weaken them a little
Vit> versions for different machines
You can't do it for everyone. there will always be one on which your “pre-render” ;) is not
will earn
Hello, lvd
lvd> 1. perversions with braking on M1
Okay minus
lvd> 2. LOW memory (256k)
Doubtful. If you say so, then all Spectrums have few.
It doesn’t seem to have much of an impact on work, and you can expand it if you wish.
lvd> 3. A bunch of different scanning options with different bars in the line and
lvd> lines on the screen.
Believe it or not, I’ve never seen anything like this, either on green or yellow or in emulsions, that’s all
sharpened multicolors work correctly.
These are some kind of fraudulent pathologies from an unknown manufacturer and should not be taken into account
we will.
lvd> 4. torn off names of the Ministry of Agriculture and bitten legs (for me, at least
lvd> least)
It was on the first scorpions that they were torn off. I have all the inscriptions on the green one in place.
This minus current is for those who always carry their soldering iron, but for ordinary customers it is...
What difference does it make to them, just like the bitten legs.
or rather, this is even a plus, they do not interfere with scratches and make it easier to mount the scarf in
body.or what do you mean by this?from the bottom side or where?
lvd> 5. 28-pin connector for AUK (save? yeah, and adapter boards
lvd> apparently by doing this, they saved some money)
Again, a dubious minus. Apparently they saved money because there wasn’t enough space on the board.The adapter board is worth it, so is the AUK, everything works. So everything is OK.
lvd> 6. DOES NOT WORK with the under-palcoder - in cr. at least on my TV (TV
lvd> does not catch FAL, but some kind of henna).
Maybe. I haven’t experimented yet. So far there seems to be little statistics on this
reason. but if this is really the case for everyone, then this is the biggest drawback :(
Hello Costa
Cos> Name more disadvantages.
Please!
1. perversions with braking on M1
2. LOW memory (256k)
3. A bunch of different scanning options with different bars in the line and lines
on the screen.
4. torn off names of the Ministry of Agriculture and bitten legs (for me, at least)
5. 28-pin connector for AUK (saved? yeah, and you can see the adapter boards are being made,
still saved)
6. DOES NOT WORK with the under-palcoder - in cr. at least on my TV (the TV doesn’t pick up
FALL, and some kind of henna).
7. further breaks down to remember...
Hello, rasmer
ras> lvd probably wants to name something that Scorp does not understand through the ass
ras> switching 128 memory pages, although all this can be treated with two
ras> wires that need to be struck against each other. since the button
ras> no time to solder :)))))))))))))) digital audio not working
ras> is treated by cutting the track on the board....
By the way, this is all a plus - because there’s no point in breeding out(#fd) glucodromes...
Hello, lvd
lvd> 6. DOES NOT WORK with the under-palcoder - in cr. at least on my TV (TV
lvd> does not catch FAL, but some kind of henna).
This shit is a pretty cool thing - it's called TSA - sekam - and if you have
the worst TV, then who is to blame for this?
Hello, rasmer
oo! the crackdown began.
in general, a vitamin. I don’t have an automatic dispatcher, but the user pokes his hands with his pens, so
there's no way he can glitch ^_~
Hello Costa
Cos> Doubtful. If you say so, then all Spectrums have few.
Cos>
But you take some kind of thread, type 5, and try to put it on
a measly 16 pags of stsorpa-256, so that at least 7-8 pags remain for the sorts! I'll take a look
I'm on you...
> It doesn’t seem to have much impact on work and can be expanded with
> desired.
>
It also affects how many times a floppy disk can be copied, and if
meg (like on my storpa) - in 1 pass...
> Believe it or not, I’ve never seen anything like this, either on green or yellow or in
> emulators, all sharpened multicolors work correctly.
>
I believe! Just as I believe that he has a multicolor, fixed in the emulsion, on
his storpe did not go and vice versa. I also believe fk0, who stated the same thing
and directly stated the reason. So fuckt is the place to be!
> These are some kind of left-field pathologies from an unknown manufacturer and they are taken into account
> we will not take.
>
What difference does it make to the user! Is he a Scorpio? YES! And who is the manufacturer, he is for
years ago may not even know. In addition, according to fk0, "games" with clockand a well-known manufacturer, namely zoneoff himself, allowed himself to write lines.
> It was on the first scorpions that they were torn off. I have all the inscriptions on green
> in place.
>
Again, what difference does it make to the user if his
not ripped off?
> This minus current is for those who always carry their soldering iron and for ordinary clients
> then this...
>
There is an opinion that a spektrumist who does not know how to hold a soldering iron in his hands, no matter how
quite completely spektrumist =) And if he is also not a craft from
list (such as graphic, music or coding), then he does not
spektrumist at all. =)))
> what difference do they make, just like bitten legs.
> or rather, this is even a plus, they do not interfere with scratches and are easier to install
> the scarf into the body. or what do you mean by this? from the bottom side or
> where?
>
I'm talking about the bitten legs of some m/sx at the root and the corresponding absence
even holes on the board for these legs. On "yellow".
> Again, a dubious minus. They saved, apparently there wasn’t enough space for
> board.> the adapter board is there, so is the AUK, everything works. So everything is OK.
>
First, the adapter board, and then they completely stuck 40 legs in there, with the bent
legs and wires. Questionable savings - adapter boards must be SEPARATE
do, and bend the legs and solder the wires completely manually, while
Wave soldering either a 28pin socket or a 40pin socket is a piece of cake. Although
Of course, there are no masks on the yellow ones, so the soldering there was done manually, but considerations
the same. IMHO - not saving, but just missed the zone, thinking that they were waiting for him
mountains AY-8912...
> Maybe. I haven’t experimented yet. So far there seems to be little statistics
> about this. but if this is really the case for everyone, then this is the most
> big drawback :(
Again, what does 'everyone' have to do with it? If, for example, your Windows is glitching, but thousands
The secret is not glitching - will this calm you down? =)
Hello Sinus
Sin> oh! the crackdown has begun.
Sin>
Sin> in general, vitamin. I don’t have an automatic dispatcher, but the user is stabbing with his pens,
Sin> that's why it can't fail ^_~
What should you do if the user has been fumbling and fumbling with his pens, all sorts of border rulers on
I seem to have overrun the place, but the multicolor still turned out crooked? Author to send
to a well-known place (in Bobruisk) or to knock on the wall with your head (user)? =)
Hello, rasmer
ras> This stuff is a pretty cool thing - it's called TSA - sekam - what if you have
ras> the worst TV, then who is to blame for this?
What? What the hell is sikam? This is a PALcoder. And the TV is quite Sonya, why on earth?
should he be the worst? The most log scorpion, yes.
Hello Sinus
Sin> in general, vitamin. I don’t have an automatic dispatcher, but the user is stabbing with his pens,
Sin> that's why it can't fail ^_~
Well, yes. But what about those machines, for example, in which the first strokes of int
They don’t end up at the beginning of the lines, but who knows where?
lvd> What is a 'standard computer'? There are no such things...
It just so happens that the Pentagon is usually considered “standard computers”,
Scorpio and Pro (meaning the basic versions, which have the same
characteristics within the series). and if the computer is even branded, but not
fits into the standards, then it is non-standard %) this is about all sorts of local
editorial offices of the Pentagons-Leningrads and the scorpions changing over and over again. how much
The characteristics “float” in the pros, I don’t know.
Hello Vitamin
and what kind of perversions with M1 on scorpion???
Hello, goodboy
Well, yes. But what about those machines, for example, in which the first strokes of int
They don’t end up at the beginning of the lines, but who knows where?
Well, it’s not for nothing that in my version as many as 6 buttons are controlled.
There all kinds of delays can be foreseen:
1) [Q,A] from int to the border line we need (it won’t work only if int is later
the beginning of the border will work, but this is some kind of artificial delay scheme for such
the cars means someone soldered)
2) [O,P] delay per line
3) [9,0] some more delay for accurate fixing
Hello Vitamin
Vit> as a coder, I will give a bold minus to Scorpio 256k. loses twice
Vit> vs Pentagon512 - 2 times less available memory and access to it
Vit> via 2 ports. for options pro1024 and scorpio1024 balance
Vit> more or less complied with
Don’t be in a hurry to put a bold minus, look at the Pentagon, initially 128 and at 512 you
I remade it myself, right?
Look, LVD has a meter-long scorpion, so Pentagon512 is twice as inferior to him =)
And what prevents you from expanding the same way #7FFD?...
Hello, boo_boo
boo> please advise what to read on the subject topic to get more sophisticated
boo> (i.e. not how to do it in 5 minutes, but with the most detailed
boo> details)...
boo> tnx!
There were articles in the early issues of ZX Format. Oh, somewhere else I came across something wrong
DejaVu is not in Adventurer or some other...
Download them from Virtual Trdos and play around with them.
Hello, lvd
lvd> But you take some thread like the fifth one and try it
lvd> shove through the pitiful 16 pages of stsorpa-256, so that at least for sorts
lvd> 7-8 pages left! I'll look at you...
> It also has an effect - a floppy disk for hell knows how many passes it knows
> copies, and if meg (like on my stsorpa) - in 1 pass...
Of course, it’s much more convenient with Mega, who argues this and that if it’s like a coder’s
the car is used, and if it’s a user-owned car, then 256 is quite
enough. But it’s not correct to put this as a minus because all specs need this
add a minus because how many clones can you count as a percentage of
memory of one megabyte. I use 2 floppy drives and therefore you know how
the drum has so many passes and I wish you the same. You expanded your memory
Well, that’s right, and whoever needs it will do the same for himself. But in general, people over there are
128 sculpted masterpieces, but here you don’t understand much, you’ve become completely lazy =)
> What difference does it make to the user! Is he a Scorpio? YES! Who is the manufacturer
> he may not know due to the passage of years. In addition, according to fk0,
> "games" with bars and lines allowed themselves to be quite famous
> manufacturer, namely the zone itself.> I believe! Just as I believe that he has a multicolor, fixed in
> emule, it didn’t work on its design and vice versa. And I also believe fk0, which
> stated the same and directly indicated the reason. So fuckt has
> place to be!
What difference does it make!? When you buy something in a store, it doesn’t matter what
take a branded product that is not known to work as a fake? That’s me right now
Let’s say I’ll take a few ATMs and solder them and hand them out to people and give you one
and you will write that the computer is nonsense, everything doesn’t work as it should and is buggy, etc.
why not an analogy?
In general, if you are serious, do you have any data on which models and in what period?
How long has Zonov released such crooked scorpions?
> Again, what difference does it make to the user if he has it ripped off from someone else
> is it not torn off somewhere?
So I’m talking about the same thing, what difference does it make to the user what was ripped off from someone when he didn’t?
ripped off and anyway, what difference does it make to the user that he also has microcircuits on his computer?
what are they worth and what is torn off there or not and what should be on them in general...
It’s a little inconvenient for the iron worker, and there are diagrams with wiring harnesses, so when
Anything can be done if you want.
> There is an opinion that a spektrumist who does not know how to hold a soldering iron in his hands> as if he’s not quite a spektrumist =) And if he’s also
> does not own any craft from the list (such as graphics,
> musical or coding), then he is not a spektrumist at all. =)))
Gee-Gee fun :)
> I'm talking about the bitten legs of some m/sx at the root and the corresponding
> there are not even holes on the board for these legs. On "yellow".
There’s no such thing on the green one. I have a yellow one lying around somewhere, I’ll have to find it and look
how many of these pawless people are there :) and in general LVD is good for making you laugh, what the hell is that?
minus, well, it’s neither cold nor hot from it =)
> First the adapter board, and then they completely stuck 40 legs there with
> with bent legs and wires. Doubtful savings - transitional
> the boards must be made SEPARATELY, and the legs must be bent and the wires soldered like this
> completely manually, while wave soldering that 28-pin socket, that
> 40pin socket is a piece of cake. Although of course the yellow ones don’t have masks, so
> soldering there was carried out manually, but the considerations are the same. IMHO - no
> saving, but just missed the zone, thinking that mountains were waiting for him
> AY-8912...Yes, even if he was stupid, I think all the manufacturers lost more or less
Sir Clive made some mistakes and nothing. Again, everything is soldered together
it works, so what else is needed from the computer. Maybe the TS device will be a little
It’s a hassle to install, and you know, it won’t be much more convenient on others.
> Again, what does 'everyone' have to do with it? If, for example, your Windows is glitching, a
> thousands of secretaries are not glitching - will this reassure you? =)
Yes, I’m telling you, I don’t have such information yet. What if you’re your example?
brought it and only you have such a one-off problem then take your computer to the trash
and go buy yourself a normal scorpion :)
Hello Sinus
Sin> well, it’s not for nothing that in my version there are as many as 6 buttons controlled.
Sin> there all kinds of delays can be provided:
in any case, different patterns are needed for different line durations
code
Cos> Of course, it’s much more convenient with Mega, who argues this and that if as
Cos> a coding machine is used and if a user machine
Cos> then 256 is quite enough.
As a coder, I’ll give Scorpio 256k a big minus. loses twice against
Pentagon512 - 2 times less available memory and access to it through 2 ports.
for the pro1024 and scorpio1024 options the balance is more or less maintained
Hello, lvd
lvd> What? What the hell is sikam? This is a PALcoder. And the TV is quite Sony, s
lvd> why should he be the worst? The most log scorpion, yes.
K>LB! I'm not good at this, so please explain lvd the difference between
K>palsecammesecam
tsc
Hello Costa
Cos> Of course, it’s much more convenient with Mega, who argues this and that if as
Cos> a coding machine is used and if a user machine
Cos> then 256 is quite enough.
Cos>
What does 'custom' mean? Gamera? For a graphic artist or muzaker?
> But it is not correct to put this as a minus because all specs need this
> add a minus because how much you calculate as a percentage
> clones with memory of one megabyte.
>
Why is it incorrect? I'm missing 256k, so I'm giving it a minus. You have enough
48k - you can give a plus to the branded one.
> In general, people over there sculpted masterpieces on 128, but here you understand little, not at all
> got lazy =)
>
Do you remember “when computers were big”, how they sculpted on punch cards in
machine codes, and bugs were corrected by gluing and punching holes by hand.
> What difference does it make!? When you buy something in a store for you without
> the difference between taking a branded product and taking a fake is unknown
> working? Right now let’s say I’ll take several ATMs and solder them> I’ll give it to people crookedly and I’ll give you one and you’ll write that the computer is nonsense
> everything doesn’t work as it should and is buggy, etc. why not an analogy?
>
once again - WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? We have a fact - the development of different Scorpios is different, as
A consequence is that there are different Scorpios among people. and either your necrocolor them
everyone will support you, or you will be covered with fakes.
> In general, if you are serious, do you have what data, what models and in
> what period of time did Zonov produce such crooked scorpions?
>
I have information that KYV has an anryl with a scorpion profile and its scorpion is given
different necrocolors. What does zoneoff and everything else have to do with it? There is a fact, let alone reasons,
those who gave birth to it are not interesting to me personally.
> So I’m talking about the same thing, what difference does it make to the user what was ripped off from someone when
> it’s not ripped off and anyway, what difference does it make to the user what he has there
> the computer also has some kind of microcircuits and what is ripped off there or not and
> generally what should be on them...
>
And what difference does it make to me to the different “users” there? I'm not a telepath, users' thoughts
I can’t guess about Scorpio and the torn off names of mikrukhs.> It’s a little inconvenient for the iron worker and there are diagrams with installations like this
> that if desired, everything can be done.
>
That's why it's a minus.
> There is no such thing on the green one. I have a yellow one lying around somewhere, I should find it
> see how many of these legless ones there are :) and in general LVD is good
> make me laugh, what the hell is this minus, well, it’s neither cold nor hot from him =)
>
Well, laugh. If your scorpio breaks down, then I’ll look at your laughter.
> Maybe the TS device will be a bit of a hassle to install, and
> you know, it won’t be much more convenient on others.
>
HERE AGAIN - that's why it's a minus! How much effort did I spend on desoldering from the transition
UMki boards and soldering a normal socket? How many paths didn’t last,
do you know? What would I do if everything was snot? I would have to
invent an adapter? And I don’t give a fuck about users who work and who don’t
touch.
> Yes, I say, I don’t have such information yet. What if it’s you
> I gave an example and only you have such a single problem then take it
> throw your computer in the trash and go buy yourself a normal scorpion :)
Signature =))))
Hello Vitamin
Vit> in any case, different options for line duration require different ones
Vit> code patterns
Vit>
Or 1 code generator :)
> as a coder, I will give a bold minus to Scorpio256k. loses twice
> versus Pentagon512 - 2 times less available memory and access to it
> via 2 ports. for options pro1024 and scorpio1024 balance
> more or less complied with
As a coder, I will remove the boldness of the minus for different ports and put a plus next to it for this.
Because it's not fic. =)
Hello, rasmer
ras> K>LB! I'm not good at this, so please explain lvd the difference between
ras> palsecammesecam
tsc
I also know about them only that they are different =) Also in NTSC there are 60Hz and 525
lines in 2 frames, and not like on pals and sicams, 50Hz and 625.
Hello Costa
Cos> Don't be in a hurry to put a bold minus, look at the Pentagon initially 128
Cos> and in 512 you remade it yourself, right?
Cos> Over there, LVD has a meter-long scorpion, so Pentagon512 is twice as big
Cos> loses =)
Memory capacity is a plus, switching through two ports is a minus. this is the balance.
Therefore, Penta512 is two pluses ahead of Scorp256.
Cos> And what prevents you from expanding the same way #7FFD?...
Scorpio expand? it will be a Pentagon from memory and a Scorpio from temporary structures...
especially since there is no de facto standard 256kb per port
Hello Vitamin
Vit> which will have to fill "empty" instructions for achievement
Vit> the required delay when outputting a line. quite possible, but it smells
Vit> by brute force (if done head-on) %)
Vit>
And besides, you can combine the effect code and multicolor in the same way.
Looks like some 4k intra from jtn did this - it has 4x4 colored chunks
are output, and at the same time something is rendered.
> aha. tell me please digital player under 256kb :D because in
> for such applications, click 1 port for shortened decryption or
> two - a very fundamental difference.
>
The most correct option, as has been said many times, is “don’t touch
with dirty hands" #7ffd, and all bits of pages (including those from #7ffd) are shoved into
some other port.
By the way, what about digital players? Do they really work the same way on
spotgon and on scorpio with its vaits in m1? I don’t believe it... And if I turn on the turbo,
then there will be an anus. ;) So digital players have a place in the same place as
necrocolor. For digital weaving, after all, the whole GE was invented.
> Well, in other applications this may not be so critical, but that’s all
> equals...Yeah, UFO-2 will make such a mess in #7ffd that any 512k spotter will go crazy. =)
Hello, lvd
lvd> Or 1 code generator
who will have to fill in “empty” instructions to achieve the desired
delays when outputting a line. quite possible, but it smacks of overkill (if
do) %)
lvd> As an encoder, I will remove the boldness of the minus sign for different ports and put it next to it
lvd> plus for this. Because it's not fic. =)
aha. please tell me a digital player for 256kb :D because in such
applications, clicking 1 port for abbreviated decryption or two - very
fundamental difference. Well, in other applications it may not be so critical,
but still...
Hello, Electrician
> In general, the scorpion IMHO was the best Soviet/Russian ZX (not a sprinter
> it is considered - only 20 of them were made :D) ... It’s a pity that Zonov is on him
> scored so early - now we would have had a video processor, a CPU of 21 MHz and more
> a lot of things... :(
And it's good that I scored :cool:
p.s.: Wait must DIE! :rolleyes:
Hello, lvd
In general, IMHO the scorp was the best Soviet/Russian ZX (the sprinter does not count -
There were only 20 of them made :D) ... It’s a pity that Zonov scored on him so early - right now
If only they had a video processor, a 21 MHz CPU, and much more... :(
Hello, lvd
lvd> And in addition, in the same way you can combine the effect code and
lvd> multicolor. Looks like some 4k intra from jtn did this - in it
lvd> 4x4 colored chunks are displayed, and at the same time something is rendered.
well, it was exclusively manual then %) I did this too - I had
rotating spiral in multicolor, during output there was a recalculation
lvd> The most correct option, as has been said many times, is
lvd> "do not touch with dirty hands" #7ffd, and all bits of pages (including
lvd> and from #7ffd) push into some other port.
hardware modification. doesn't roll. although if it became standard I would
all limbs for %) 256 pages - this is amazing! %)
lvd> By the way, what about digital players? Do they really work the same way?
lvd> on the mottlegoon and on the scorpion with its vaits in m1? I don’t believe it... What if I
lvd> If I turn on the turbo, then there will be an anus. So digital players
lvd> place in the same place as necrocolor. For digital weaving, at the end
lvd> after all, the whole GS was invented.
the question is not the accuracy of the game (which is influenced by whites and others), but the time toclicking pages. It’s worth roughly comparing the muse on AU and on Covox (with
provided 4 bits on the last one so that the dynamic range is equal) so that
"feel the difference"
lvd> Yeah, UFO-2 will make such a mess in #7ffd that any 512k spotter will have a roof
lvd> will leave. =)
I don’t know about this, I don’t play with toys%)
Hello Vitamin
Vit> well, it’s exclusively manual then %) I did this too, at my place
Vit> there was a rotating spiral in multicolor, during output there was a recalculation
Vit>
And jtn's code was automatically generated like this...
> hardware modification. doesn't roll. although if it became standard, I
> would have all the limbs for %) 256 pages - it’s amazing! %)
>
Haha, but 512k on 7ffd is like not a hardware upgrade... hmm =) What's in Alasma
it will do anything, but for example skorp1k and pentagon 512k work equally well in
kts - which one is more standard and why?
> the question is not about the accuracy of the game (which is influenced by whites and others), but
> time spent clicking pages. It’s worth roughly comparing the muse on AU and on
> covox (assuming 4 bits for the last so that the dynamic range
> was equal) to “feel the difference”
>
Oh, well, yes. It’s so important to play a farting digital music for 5 bars
faster, but it certainly won’t work on all clones except Spotgon!
Hello, lvd
In general, IMHO the scorp was the best Soviet/Russian ZX (the sprinter does not count -
There were only 20 of them made :D) ... It’s a pity that Zonov scored on him so early - right now
If only they had a video processor, a 21 MHz CPU, and much more... :(
Hello, lvd
Zonov also had no problems with his head, unlike... :D
Hello, Electrician
> In general, the scorpion IMHO was the best Soviet/Russian ZX (not a sprinter
> it is considered - only 20 of them were made :D) ... It’s a pity that Zonov is on him
> scored so early - now we would have had a video processor, a CPU of 21 MHz and more
> a lot of things... :(
I would not say that scorpion as a tsopuntel was the best, but that’s what the company
Zonoffa was one of the most successful Spectrum clones on the market - ready
agree. She found the resources to sponsor the creation of a shadow business and
professional software to create a lot of hardware for the Spectrum (PCS controllers
keyboard mice and especially - gmh). On this basis, with a Scorpio, only Kai can
compare.
Hello, lvd
lvd> And jtn's code was automatically generated like this...
Most likely, it was the “delay” code that was automatically added. main part
withdrawal and de-cranch - handles
lvd> Haha, but 512k on 7ffd is like not a hardware upgrade... hmm =) Q
lvd> alasme will give you a ride for anything, for example skorp1k and pentagon 512k
lvd> work equally well in CC - which one is more standard and
lvd> why?
512k at 7ffd is the standard. as well as 256k at 1ffd. but 4 meters at xxxxx -
this is just a dream for now. In general, I entered two ports in this case - for
switching pages instead of 0 (standard) and instead of 5. that would be a problem %)
lvd> Oh, yes. It's so important to play a farting digital music on 5
lvd> clock cycles are faster, but it certainly won’t work on all clones except
lvd> spotted gonad!
can you squeeze in the page switching through 1ffd in 5 clock cycles? ;)
and 128K digital players work quite well on all platforms. if there is
autodetection of sampling rate (extreme tracker) is generally useful
Hello, lvd
Zonov also had no problems with his head, unlike... :D
Hello, lvd
Yes, I remember the printout was in lamerge or some similar shnyaga. :) There by the way
Zonov himself explained incomprehensibly - like the circuit is hardwired into ROM, but this is _NOT_ alter or
something like that, just a ROM... Which is what made RST7 stupid.
Hello, Electrician
> Zonov also had no problems with his head, unlike... :D
Well, who cares? There were computers - they were good - more or less, but what about
I don't give a fuck about my head...
By the way, Zonov is a mega-patient dude - on some website (there are audio recordings)
mega-patiently explained to the drunk rst7 and someone else how his plmka in gmkha
works, and they were either stupid drunk, or trying to mock Zonov
(again, I'm drunk)... I couldn't stand it - I'd send the hell out of such idiots...
Hello, lvd
Yes, I remember the printout was in lamerge or some similar shnyaga. :) There by the way
Zonov himself explained incomprehensibly - like the circuit is hardwired into ROM, but this is _NOT_ alter or
something like that, just a ROM... Which is what made RST7 stupid.
Hello, Electrician
Here's an example of an 8-color border effect at the top of the screen for
virtual scorpion (I haven’t tested it on a real one). I would like to mention one
features when creating multicolor and border effects. If the number of cycles per
interrupt is not equal to 69888, then the image will jump. And more, if necessary
to accurately align the border image and the screen, you need to adjust INT exactly to
the beginning of the interruption, for example, as it was done in ZX-Review 96 4-5
File: ULTRA__.zip http://zx.pk.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=2455
Hello, Jukov
The ancient outcome of the multicolor spiral. Brake decranching, nothing
I redid it and left it as is. There is also a full-screen version, but there
recalculation is very slow
┌─- CODE ───
MACRO WAIT ;374
LD B,33 ;7.5
DJNZ $;13.5*Q-5.5
NOP ;8
NOP; E=455.5
ENDM
RAD EQU 37
ORG 24576
CALL CALCTAB
CALL CALCUS
LD HL,16384
LD DE,16385
LD BC,4095
LD (HL),15
LDIR
LD HL,PLAY
LD (#FBFF),HL
LD A,251
LD I,A
IM 2
EI
LD HL,DATA
LD DE,BUFFER
LD BC,1536
LDIR
CYCL
HALT
CALL RECALC
LD HL,(PREW+1)
LD A,#FB
IN A,(254)
RRA
JR C,W1
LD A,H
OR L
JR Z,W1
DEC HL
W1 LD A,#FD
IN A,(254)
RRA
JR C,W2
INC HL
W2 LD (PREW+1),HL
LD A,(FINE+1)
LD B,A
LD A,#DF
IN A,(254)
RRA
LD C,A
JR C,L1
LD A,B
INC A
JR Z,L1
LD B,A
L1 RR C
JR C,L2
LD A,B
AND A
JR Z,L2
DEC B
L2 LD A,B
LD (FINE+1),A
LD A,191
IN A,(254)
RRA
JR C,CYCL
IM 1 EI
RET
PLAY PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL
EXX
EX AF,AF'
PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL,IX,IY
ZADA CALL TASK
POP IY,IX,HL,DE,BC,AF
EXX
EX AF,AF'
POP HL,DE,BC,AF
EI
RET
TASK
PREW LD HL,665
INC HL
DEL DEC HL
LD A,H
OR L
JR NZ,DEL
FINE LD A,0
INC A
DEL1 DEC A
JR NZ,DEL1
LD IX,BUFFER
PUTMLT1 ;IX-SOURCE
ADR1=22528
LD (STAKA+1),SP
DUP 16
DUP 2
LD SP,IX
POP HL,DE,BC,AF
EXX
EX AF,AF'
POP HL,DE,BC,AF
LD SP,ADR1+16
PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL
EXX
EX AF,AF'
PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL
LD DE,16
ADD IX,DE
LD SP,IX
POP HL,DE,BC,AF
EXX
EX AF,AF'
POP HL,DE,BC,AF
LD SP,ADR1+32
PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL
EXX
EX AF,AF'
PUSH AF,BC,DE,HL
LD DE,16
ADD IX,DE
WAIT
EDUP
ADR1=ADR1+32
EDUP
STAKA LD SP,0
RET
CALCTAB LD HL,RECTAB
RETY LD A,L
SUB 8
AND 56
LD E,A
LD A,L
DEC A
AND 7
OR E
LD (HL),A
INC L
JR NZ,RETY
RET
CALCUS LD B,RAD
LD C,0
ICY PUSH BC
PUSH BC
LD A,RAD
SUB B
LD (ORO+1),A
LD (ARA+1),A
LD L,A
LD A,C
CALL LSINA
SUB 16
NEG
LD L,A
PUSH HL
ARA LD L,0
LD A,C
ADD A,64
CALL LSINA
ADD A,32
LD E,A
POP HL
POP BC
LD A,C
ORO ADD A,0
AND 28
RRA
RRA
LD C,A
CALL PLOT
POP BC
INC C
JR NZ,ICY
DJNZ ICY
RET
RECALC LD DE,BUFFER
LD HL,RECTAB
LD BC,1024
REC LD A,(DE)
LD L,A
LDI
JP PE,REC
RET
PLOT LD A,L ;L-Y
CP 32 ;E-X
RET NC ;C-COLOR
LD A,E
CP 64
RET NC
LD H,0
DUP 5
ADD HL,HL
EDUP
LD B,56
RR E
JR C,ORE
LD B,7
AND A
RL C
RL C
RL C
ORE LD D,'DATA
ADD HL,DE
LD A,(HL)
AND B
OR C
LD (HL),A
RET
LSINA ;A=L*SIN A
LD D,'SINUS
LD E,A
LD A,(DE)
AND A
JP M,NEGE
BIT 7,L
JR Z,ALPOS
EX AF,AF'
LD A,L
NEG
LD L,A
EX AF,AF'
JR NEGRES
ALPOS CALL MULS
ADD HL,HL
LD A,H
RET
NEGE NEG
BIT 7,L
JR Z,NEGRES
EX AF,AF'
LD A,L
NEG
LD L,A
EX AF,AF'
JR ALPOS
NEGRES CALL MULS
ADD HL,HL
LD A,H
NEG
RET
MULS ;HL=L*A
LD DE,0
LD H,E
CWERT DUP 8
RRA
JR NC,$+5
EX DE,HL
ADD HL,DE
EX DE,HL
ADD HL,HL
EDUP
EX DE,HL
RET
MULT LD HL,0 ;HL=DE*A
EX DE,HL
JR CWERT
DIV XOR A ;BC=HL/DE HL- remainder
LD B,A
LD C,A
SUBU SBC HL,DE
JR C,ZI
INC BC
JR MORNING
DIVIS XOR A ;A=HL/DE HL- remainder
SUBU1 SBC HL,DE
JR C,ZI
INC A
JR SUBU1
ZI ADD HL,DE
RET
DIVI ;C=A/B A-residue
INC B
DEC B
RET Z
LD C,0
AND A
SUB2 SUB B
JR J,ZU
INC C
JR SUBU2
ADD A,B
RET
ORG '($-1)+1*256
SINUS INCBIN "SINUS
BUFFER DEFS 1536
DATA DEFS 1536
RECTAB DEFS 255
ORG 24576
└── CODE ───
Hello Titus
Tit> And it’s good that I scored
Tit>
Tit> p.s.: Wait must DIE!
No, bad. I then had the feeling that Zonov was ripe for
cross gmx with Scorp not on snot, but on a single board, throwing out the excess and
leaving slots. It would be a cool compact board without snot and with a choice
schemes.
Hello, lvd
lvd> By the way, Zonov is a mega-patient dude - on some kind of inlay (there is
lvd> audio recordings) mega-patiently explained to drunk rst7 and someone else how to
lvd> his plmka in gmkha works, and they were either stupid drunk, or trying
lvd> mock Zonov (again, I'm drunk)... I couldn't stand it - I sent
lvd> Fuck such idiots...
E'97 - Zones, rst#7 and kan0.
rst, as I suspect, in addition to the fact that he was drunk, the scorpion then probably saw
only mine (sc-12 board, yellow, with a bunch of mgtf-a), on which satis-2 is final
collected. That’s why, probably, I didn’t understand what other green board, what other
hmm... ;-)
Hello, lvd
lvd> I would not say that scorpion as a tsompuuntel was the best, but here
lvd> that Zonoffa was one of the most successful clones on the market
lvd> Spectrum - I'm ready to agree. She found the resources to
lvd> sponsor the creation of a shadow business and professional training to create a multitude
lvd> hardware for the Spectrum (controllers for PC keyboards and especially -
lvd> gmh). In this regard, only Kai can compare with Scorpio.
How exactly does Kai compare? I don’t remember anything for the shadow guy,
ppzu and carriage of boards...