A package of letters in echo...

ZXNet echo conference «code.zx»

From Aleksandr Majorov To Yaroslav Kozlov 28 September 1998

Greetings, oh dearest Yaroslav! Once in morning 26-09-98 02:55:00 somebody Yaroslav Kozlov has written to Aleksandr Majorov about 'Packet of letters in echo...'. [ ] KF>>> Have you decided to follow the example of YK? Then don't forget KF>>> 16 expanded fonts in 4 banks. And music of course. ;-) YK> to KF: Correct. There’s no point in braking about it. Music YK> will slightly tone down the nonsense. no, man, you clearly have troubles in your head... 1) THERE WAS A TON OF SMILES!!!!!!!!!! 2) did you even understand what you said to your friends “correctly”? you (i.e. your code) were cited as an _example_ of obvious slowness and unnecessary memory consumption! And it wasn’t me who said this! AM>> I'll think about it ;-))))))))) AM>> only the scroll will be two-frame - according to the standard! ;-))))) YK> And the inexhaustible power of the chicken gyrus will delight everyone with a miracle? no, well, I understand when people are so _stupid_ that they don’t understand even jokes, but without understanding something, starting to call names is obviously... the finale YK> What kind of 2 frames are there? Braking and feces are yours YK> friend LD, having written not to you, I remembered about you. YK> everyone has already seen and heard this. yes, you are right, we have seen and heard your “show offs”.Now be so kind as to explain _your_ phrase: 1) _who_ suggested introducing 2 frames per scroll as a standard? 2) it means -LD- is already some kind of “my friend”, since he is you doesn't support? hmm... that means I have almost the entire network as friends ;-))) 3) translate the phrase into _Russian_ language “...I didn’t write to you, I remembered about you...” and at the same time explain _what_ you wanted to say with this: YK> [] did you cut something out of your letter and tell me about it? Can I see what you cut out??? YK> I have a scroll of 16 lines with color walking within YK> 69000 cycles. YK> Here's a normal standard for you. Or the same 2 frames in half a line ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YK> for 1, it will be even better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ First, translate the underlined!!! Well, let's go to treat... So you are offering a standard scroll of 69,000 cycles? those. _two_ frames? Tell me _for_ what machine did you make your scroll? Your scrolling can only fit into one frame on the Pentagon, Well, _possibly_ at KAU. And if you made software “for everyone,” then you should know that the majority sit on scorps or 128K, the short ones have a temporary almost like a scorpion. Here's some data that you just don't seem to know: _branded_ yellow shell without any extensions of intelligence,and I suspect that most of the "green" is displayed on screen 312 lines, output time of one line - 224 clock cycles. Total one int = 69888 cycles!!! But this is the _UNATCHIABLE_ maximum!!! Scorp is slowing down by 3...5%! at -3% int = 67792 at -5% int = 66698 Well, tell me, how many frames will it take for your scroll to work? Have you by any chance tried to read Zx-Format, where It was _recommended_ for the software to go _everywhere_ accept int for 65000 cycles! and in general - I don’t understand _what_ algorithm are you using? 16 lines with color = 16 * 9 * 32 = 4608 bytes 69000 / 4608 = 14.973 clock cycles per byte!!!! I figured out the scroller via the stack: a simple transfer of 4608 bytes takes 58752 clock cycles! those. 12.75 clock cycles per byte! and the size of this scroller is 7488 bytes... Well, and another one like this for scrolling down... ;-)) 69000 - 58752 = 10248 clock cycles, you took it somewhere... Or 69 thousand clock cycles along with printing a new line? still seems long... YK> A Can you do anything other than YK> slow down? Hardly. I already wrote to you - give examples of my software, where brakes, provide code fragments with brakes, and if you can, show me how to write! What, are you going to start shouting that you don’t want to/don’t have to/etc.? So you _can't_! So you can _only_ scream to no avail... 2ALL: people, please upload a viewer by YK! no, exactly, I’ll give it all up for a couple of days and show everyoneamazing coding perversions! ;-))) YK> That's why you were lying around here with "standards". You have multiple sclerosis, or what? I remember that it was none other than you who proposed the “standard”... YK> Moreover. Your development will allow you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YK> someday something that could ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YK> arouse interest? That's why your letters ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YK> I hardly read. hmm... Well, let's go - as always - TRANSLATE THE UNDERLINED!!! the very fact of your response to the _fleeting_ mention of you my letter says quite the opposite! If you “hardly read” my letters, then _how_ you read my letter? Aaaaaaa!!! I understand!!! Reading my letters implies the most There is no careful study of my letters!!!!!! Let's move on - well, regarding “development”, if I were you I wouldn’t even stuttered, since you _completely_ don’t understand jokes, you don’t understand what they tell you in all seriousness, trying to convince everyone at any cost that you are right, screams that someone doesn’t know how to write programs against yours brake viewer and _nothing else_(!), etc. etc. speaks precisely about your “underdevelopment”... So my letters don't arouse _any_ interest? Could you say more precisely from whom?IMHO in your phrase (I seem to have guessed what word missing there ;-))) again you are trying to speak for everyone... On what basis do you speak for everyone? Have you by any chance noticed my correspondence in the echoes? oh yes, you don’t read my letters, that’s why it seems to you that my letters are of no interest to anyone... Look at something .sysop... YK> Wretchedness? - No. And it happens sometimes YK> sincerely responsive... Freezing..... hmm... still try to express yourself more clearly, otherwise it won't do a damn thing It's not clear what you wanted to say... but what you wanted to say with your letter is what I completely I can't understand... Is it really true that you still haven’t understood anything after your past "show off" that, unfortunately, you are either simply considered a fool, or perceived as some kind of buffoon... Mlyn, well, just like in anek: bear: no, man, I don’t understand, did you come to hunt or... YK> + Origin: the following numbers will not be superfluous: (500:812/07.05) yeah, only when these “not superfluous” numbers take away the soap from /00 and from /10 unknown... Although I don’t care somehow... the soap is not my thing... Well that's it *MAS* with a sledgehammer 2Moderator: sorry for the letter _completely_ off topic of the conference, just like the original ;-) Feel free to give me a sign! I just couldn’t help but answer... and I’m a little angry today ;-)))) 2ALL: if anyone wants to say something - goto SPBZXNET.GENERAL 2YK: see 2ALL, or in soap!